DonQOnIce t1_j6l7ehs wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:43 AM

Reply to comment by flamehead2k1 in Third Bicyclist Killed in Philadelphia in January 2023 - Bicycle Coalition of Greater Philadelphia by hdhcnsnd

They did say “killed or injured” though. What is the car injury rate for 2021?

flamehead2k1 t1_j6l889g wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:50 AM

Injury data is much less reliable than deaths due to a lack of reporting on injuries.

Deaths are a much more reliable statistic because reporting is much higher.

I'm willing to look at data on injuries if you have some but given Homicides are 4x traffic deaths, the injury stats would need to heavily lean to traffic injuries for OP's claim to hold water

soundcoffee t1_j6lf0g3 wrote on January 31, 2023 at 3:43 AM

I worked for a while at a firm where I had access to PennDOT crash data. Though I don't remember specifics I can say with certainty that for every crash with a death, there are easily tens more with injuries and hundreds more with "suspected injuries" (ie. concussion, whiplash, stuff that an EMT would need to check out to be sure of rather than a bone sticking out). And surprisingly, car/bike and car/pedestrian crashes cause injury way more often than death.