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ladz t1_iwe4hqv wrote

Reply to comment by DirtyOldPanties in Why Scientific Progress in Ethics Is Frozen by DirtyOldPanties

As a counterexample, ants and other highly successful hive insects definitely do not consider self-preservation as an ultimate value as evident in their group-benefitting sacrificial behavior.

I've never heard a good argument Ayn Rand. The position that all selflessness is antisocial comes from garbage capitalist dogma and is empathetically bankrupt.

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[deleted] t1_iwf567u wrote

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Bek t1_iwg9tdx wrote

OP did respond to the quote.

> let me stress that the fact that living entities exist and function necessitates the existence of val­ues and of an ultimate value which for any given living entity is its own life.

Last I checked ants are living entities.

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DirtyOldPanties OP t1_iwe7ou8 wrote

Human beings are not ants or any sort of hive.

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Bek t1_iwg9kxu wrote

Your quote is about living entities, not just humans. Ants and anything else that makes up a hive is a living entity.

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