Submitted by contractualist t3_yzmht5 in philosophy
VitriolicViolet t1_ix5ggz7 wrote
Reply to comment by TonyR600 in Two Concepts of Freedom (Actual Freedom and Conscious Freedom) by contractualist
eh, more like the US vs China.
in the US one has freedom to do pretty much whatever (obviously within some bounds) ie you can become rich enough to dismantle society itself and you are 'free' to do so (Jeff Bezos, Musk, Gates etc ie positive freedom: freedom from external interference).
in China one is free to do whatever they want within the context of larger society ie you can become rich but not enough to dismantle society itself (Jack Ma being punished for doing what Gates and Bezos did: vertical integration to the point of being able to effectively blackmail the nation ie negative freedom).
there is no absolute freedom or even a framework for it (even Anarchy has rules just no centralised authority) outside nature.
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