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iiioiia t1_iz0qez1 wrote

Reply to comment by cutelyaware in How to solve moral problems with formal logic and probability by beforesunset1010

> You can't solve moral problems with math. You can only express your moral beliefs in symbolic forms and manipulate them with the tools of mathematics

I agree you can't guarantee a solution, or create a solution that solves them directly, but a math based solution could cause belief formation that is sufficient to alter human behavior enough to (at least substantially) solve the problem, could it not?

On one hand, this is kinda "cheating"....but on the other hand, ignoring how reality actually works isn't flawless either.

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cutelyaware t1_iz2a5je wrote

No, this is the sort of situation that prompted the Jonathon Swift quote >“You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.”

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iiioiia t1_iz2aayq wrote

What I like about that quote is rarely does the person playing it care if it is actually true.

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cutelyaware t1_iz2j9g6 wrote

Ad hominin attacks are fallacious too

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iiioiia t1_iz2ks7i wrote

If one is making an assertion about the truth value of a proposition based on criticism of the messenger, but I am making this claim broadly (applicable to all people).

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cutelyaware t1_iz37vpp wrote

In this context it reads as a direct attack, just FYI

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