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BrightThru2014 t1_j38p825 wrote

Reply to comment by aesu in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched

I mean this earnestly — I don’t think what you’re describing is necessarily an irrefutable certainty, at all. Look at existence in the first place, we are sentient beings on a rock existing in a vast expanse of nothingness. That doesn’t make any logical sense. Our scientific understanding of the world around us is beyond primitive. You don’t need religion to think that there’s more to this than what we can physically observe.

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Matrixneo42 t1_j3abab0 wrote

I’ve actually seen and felt proof of things that we don’t have normal explanations. There’s definitely more than meets the eye.

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masterofallvillainy t1_j39rij3 wrote

I'm not sure what logic has to do with the reality we have. I get that people would use logic to try and understand the universe. But with obvious gaps in our knowledge and understanding. It makes sense that we can't make perfect sense of it.

Plus with reality operating under it's own laws and properties. It's possible we'll never be able to make logical sense of the universe.

Logic is also not absolute. And is fallible.

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BrightThru2014 t1_j3a0reg wrote

I think that’s my point precisely actually — hence why the above poster is mistaken in viewing his opinion as the absolute truth regarding consciousness.

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masterofallvillainy t1_j3a1lld wrote

I have a different take on it. He said what he thinks and explains his reasoning. Nothing absolute about that.

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johnjohn4011 t1_j39ui06 wrote

Right. "Logic" is just a totally subjective self feedback loop, essentially reducible to unprovable assumptions. Nothing more.

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SecondAlibi t1_j39wrt9 wrote

Sure, but there aren’t beings pondering consciousness on the uninhabitable planets. It’s the law of large numbers. So far life’s success rate is something like 0.000000000001%.

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