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DogmaJones OP t1_je2jaj4 wrote

Reply to comment by old_righty in This old woman was snooping around our backyard at work. She did not see the drop. by DogmaJones

Maybe. It isn’t a public thoroughfare, so this was trespassing. Also, behind where the photo was taken there is a small hill/grade to get down there.

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Mellopiex t1_je2qqfd wrote

Could she have mistaken it for a landscaping company where you peruse through the yard to get an idea of what you want?

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DogmaJones OP t1_je2rgdh wrote

I can’t see it. All of this is a few hundred feet behind a dense wall of trees. It’s literally the backyard of a golf course.

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Benjiiints t1_je46kc1 wrote

old people get lost

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Neitzi t1_je48k5v wrote

Old people steal shit too

Welcome to the real world

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Benjiiints t1_je4gthl wrote

automatically assuming the worst of people makes the world a terrible place to live; enjoy

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Neitzi t1_je4hoi8 wrote

I'm not assuming either - I'm just going by what OP has said in relation to how you access the area.

They are trespassing but either way this drop is dangerous.

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Coupon_Ninja t1_je2k3eu wrote

Does one have to post “NO TRESPASSING” signs, so it is explicitly known, and then you have the legal right to remove them, point a gun at them, and/or call the cops?

Similar for “Beware of Dog”. If it’s not posted I think the proprietor can be charge with endangerment or something. Like you cannot booby trap your own home, which I think is ridiculous.

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RJFerret t1_je2ppe6 wrote

Different laws in different states, mine, sign or fence.

Booby traps aren't allowed because different categories of entrants, guests expect safety, so do emergency personnel like paramedics/firemen, then postal workers have property access rights too. Trespassers have least, but still can't indiscriminately kill them for no reason.

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upvoatsforall t1_je304uk wrote

Can you kill them for trespassing? That’s a reason.

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RJFerret t1_je31v0v wrote

Of course not, since no threat to your life or property based on trespass alone.

Some states do have the "Castle Doctrine" though.

If someone trespasses, the legal procedure is simply inform them and request they leave (either the way they came, or shortest direction off your property). On municipal property or some reservoir property it may be a misdemeanor for which you may be ticketed if found in violation by an officer.

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upvoatsforall t1_je33z4j wrote

What am I allowed to do if the officer is trespassing to investigate?

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bruthaman t1_je43uq0 wrote

Ask them to leave or provide a warrant. Ask for sergeant to assist. If nothing, report to 911 for more officer support and tell them your civil rights are being violated. Record everything.

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dandroid126 t1_je4ae8s wrote

I remember a case from decades ago where someone was trespassing and intending on robbing an old woman, and then slipped on ice on her property and ended up in the hospital. They successfully sued the old woman for not maintaining her property.

Obligatory IANAL, so I don't know the intricacies here or of the situations are comparable. I also don't remember the details of this case. Would love to hear from someone more knowledgeable than me on this.

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