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physicallyatherapist OP t1_ja1eif4 wrote

Reply to comment by JuliaX1984 in February averaged 12 degrees above normal and set 3 record highs by physicallyatherapist

Educate yourself. This is a problem that needs major policy change to reverse action. It's not as simple as not using single use products. The average person can do things to help as much as they can, but it's not enough without major structural changes. Saying "fine by me" and then downplaying the issue as just "weather patterns" is just pure ignorance

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JuliaX1984 t1_ja1m7rg wrote

Rephrase: I'll live my life exactly as the scientists who discovered this do and pay the same amount of attention to my use of modern technology and inventions as they do.

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physicallyatherapist OP t1_ja1qstr wrote

Oh are you protesting for climate change so much you're getting arrested for it? Writing to your congressmen? Suggesting policy changes? On top of all of those changes? Only voting Democrat since they're the only ones pushing for policy changes? If not then stfu

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/us/private-jets-climate-protests-airport.html

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JuliaX1984 t1_ja1rj95 wrote

I'm pretty sure any wealthy politician you vote for on either side uses more fossil fuels than I do, and electing them to office and ensuring their salary to keep spending on limos, flights, and steak dinners just contributes to climate change. If they believe in such policy changes, why wouldn't they currently live their life the way said policies say everyone should? They're free to eat vegan, bike everywhere, and not go to Starbucks under current policy.

I'm a legal secretary. You don't want to know how many trees every single legal case kills, no matter how small.

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physicallyatherapist OP t1_ja1vi8v wrote

No. This isn't a "both sides" thing. Only one political party actually pushes to pass policy to improve the environment, tax the rich, and push for carbon taxes while the other side tries to prevent it. Maybe you should try to do your part like the scientists. Rather than pretend this isn't an issue.

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JuliaX1984 t1_ja1yj3v wrote

Policies for you and me to follow, not for them to follow. Unless the politician you vote for already eats vegan, never drives or flies, never uses plastic or air conditioning or too much heat or any of the other things climate policies are designed to restrict, they have no real desire to fix anything, just to be popular. Unless they walk the walk, you're not voting for someone who sincerely cares about fixing a problem they see as urgent.

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physicallyatherapist OP t1_ja349ql wrote

Again, educate yourself. Major structural changes with carbon taxes, incentives and expanding green energy, and making it easier to switch to green energy with policy is 1000x more impactful than stuff like never using plastic. Stop making excuses for your own actions and laziness. "Hrr drr I'm not going to improve anything myself unless everyone else does"

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JuliaX1984 t1_ja35esv wrote

Then if people are free to use all the plastic and emissions they want because it's not significantly harmful, what was the point of all this? How are people selfish if their choices aren't even impacting others anyway? I'm sorry, but logically, an action like flying in a plane can't be both harmful when you do it but worthless when you don't do it.

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physicallyatherapist OP t1_ja3edto wrote

I've already said that those things can be improved and people CAN do their part but without policy changes (like banning single use plastic or carbon taxes) then average people or corporations aren't going to be incentivized to do it. You need major policy changes alongside personal improvement. You're trying to make excuses for your own laziness and somehow think that the 535 people in federal Congress are the ones that are doing all of the polluting or aren't doing things too (without actually backing up those claims in any way). Since Trump has done tax fraud does that mean you should do it too? You do what is best for society and the future, not use moronic and childish "logic" of.. well they aren't doing it so why should I? Again, if you aren't voting Democrat, aren't actually doing the work of holding those same politicians accountable with protesting, and aren't spreading awareness of what is happening rather than "fine with me" BS attitude then you really need to stfu for real because you're part of the larger problem of pretending there isn't an issue and not doing anything yourself to help fix it

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JuliaX1984 t1_ja3xi31 wrote

If someone told me, "Don't drink that! I've tested it and found that it's poisonous!" and then proceeded to drink it themselves, I wouldn't find their warning credible.

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physicallyatherapist OP t1_ja3zu56 wrote

You're making up hypothetical scenarios as an excuse for your laziness. You have no idea of how every single politician lives their lives and you're basing your actions off of them for climate but I guarantee you don't base any other decision on that.

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