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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu296m5 wrote

Reply to comment by thatburghfan in The construction has been ridiculous lately by soggymuffinz

My biggest pet peeve about it is when I see about 10 workers standing around a hole and one guy working. Perfect example was tonight on saw mill run near the rite aide. There were at least 10 guys there standing doing absolutely nothing.

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gentle_doom t1_iu2egtb wrote

Well if all 10 of them were in the hole how the hell would they have any room to work? Also remember you are not in traffic, you ARE the traffic.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu2eos0 wrote

Lol they were not in the hole. They were all just surrounding it staring at it.

Edit: misread your comment. Why have so many of them if they aren't doing anything? Doesn't make sense to me.

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jralll234 t1_iu2jbt6 wrote

They all have different jobs. Lots of different machines to run, skilled labor in the hole laying pipe (teehee) foreman directing it all, 3rd party inspector, sometimes multiple inspectors each responsible for watching different aspects of the work. Nobody is there that doesn’t have to be.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu2jmc1 wrote

I guess when you are looking at it from a civilians perspective being stuck in the car barely moving, you don't see it from that perspective.

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gentle_doom t1_iu2f77k wrote

No but traffic will be a mess with construction every spring summer fall in Pennsylvania forever. Asphalt plants need to run at a certain ambient temp for placement so the construction season is limited and they just try to get as much done as possible in the shortest amount of time and usually that means high lane closures and delays.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu2fg9d wrote

That's interesting. What's the highest temperature asphalt can be laid out in?

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gentle_doom t1_iu2gimx wrote

I think they typically like min of 40. But also the entire week has to be consistent in the 40’s and rising because it’s cost a lot for the actual asphalt plant to be running so they don’t just open and close on a daily basis. They need to have orders. And on that subject concrete is also tough to place in cold temps slowing down a lot of construction but concrete actually produces it’s own heat during curing and blankets can keep that work going thru winter but asphalt is what a majority of our roads are made of here in PA.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu2h98m wrote

That's good to know! I was genuinely curious! I find that stuff interesting.

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wvlurker t1_iu3p4ss wrote

My biggest pet peeve is when someone who knows absolutely nothing about construction goes online and pretends to know enough to assess what every worker is doing.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu4150w wrote

Well, when you're sitting in a car for over an hour of bumper to bumper traffic and see that everyone is just standing there it's not a good look. Seems like poor use of time and poor management. Again what do I know about construction?

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wvlurker t1_iu496br wrote

Absolutely nothing if you think everyone can be working at the same time.

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chocobridges t1_iu2fhyk wrote

If someone is in a hole digging around and 10 people are around there is probably a utility that wasn't on the plan (hello old metro US). Last thing you need is to shut water for an entire neighborhood, cause a gas explosion, electrocute someone, or cut through telecom.

Also, people have to wait around when there are material (especially concrete) deliveries and permit (traffic or noise) restrictions.

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Yomama-22 t1_iu2ced2 wrote

Designated stand arounders. Every job has them. Relax.

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uglybushes t1_iu2jcgv wrote

Assholes employing people! Making sure they have enough employees and not short staffed.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu2d031 wrote

When a normal 20 minutes drive turns into more than an hour of sitting in traffic nightly, it is quite hard to relax. Then, when I go see my family it takes me another 45 minutes just to get to the other side of the waterfront which is usually a 5-10 minutes drive cutting down eighth avenue. So no, I will not relax.

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Yomama-22 t1_iu2dffp wrote

Get out and help then.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu2e3at wrote

Sure. Give me some tools!

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Yomama-22 t1_iu2vbkd wrote

You don’t need anything., you can be the designated stand arounder .

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jon36992002 t1_iu2ty6a wrote

If a job requires 10 people for 15 minutes, and 1 person for the next 45, they send 10 people. A lot of construction is like that, you need to have a large crew available, but there isn't a way for all of them to productively work for the whole shift.

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soggymuffinz OP t1_iu3zmxy wrote

Sounds like bad management honestly. But then again what do I know about construction?

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