Submitted by lestermagnum t3_114y5oy in providence

“But after the squabbles over some of the 40 miles of protected bike lanes built before Elorza left office, Mayor Brett Smiley is pressing pause. All safety and public infrastructure upgrades – from bike lanes to speed humps – are under review by his administration, with no plans to start spending the grant until that review is completed”

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boiler49 t1_j8zittz wrote

Fuck that guy

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kbd77 t1_j8znt2u wrote

Reminder that he only got like 36% of the vote lol, great system we have here

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StonksGuy3000 t1_j93u84v wrote

No other candidate had a higher %, so it doesn’t seem that crazy to me

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kbd77 t1_j94sp47 wrote

Google “ranked choice voting”

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StonksGuy3000 t1_j960arc wrote

I’m quite familiar with it, thanks. It has been discussed numerous times. Id like to point out that you can still end up with someone who was not the first choice of 50%+. People will be salty about the result if they dont get who they wanted

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kbd77 t1_j961ztp wrote

Well yeah, if a rather sizable majority didn’t want this guy to be mayor it makes sense that a lot of people aren’t going to give him the benefit of the doubt when he does stuff like this that flies in the face of what most people want. This is why a three-way race is a dumb way to elect a leader. But, beyond the issues with our electoral process, it was foolish of both LaFortune and Cuervo to stay in the race knowing they’d likely split the progressive vote. Now we have an unpopular mayor who doesn’t represent the majority of voters’ interests.

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StonksGuy3000 t1_j96jvel wrote

Tbf, he didn’t really even do anything yet. You just don’t like him. Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with taking extra time to reevaluate everything and make sure it’s done right the first time.

A few years ago, the city added speed humps to my street. Within a year, they had to be redone. The idea was fine, but the execution was awful. I’d rather we identify any potential issues before using tons of $$$

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meme-scraperr t1_ja1flrr wrote

I woulda said nirva, then smiley, the Cuervo. He wasn’t the best but he wasn’t the worst. Why Cuervo didn’t shave his face I will never understand. The guy seemed a little nonchalant

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_j8zprrb wrote

I encourage people to contact the opposing jewelry district association and rhody craft, just write them a sentence or two on why this infrastructure is important to you.

https://www.jewelrydistrict.org/contact

https://www.rhodycraft.com/contact.html

Also, smiley put a study of prov on the city of prov website where you can enter concerns.

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FrutaFertil t1_j903ui0 wrote

Also the owners of Plant City were strongly opposing the bike lane by their store…

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psy-ducks t1_j91a6jk wrote

That's really disappointing to me, someone who goes to Plant City all the time and likes not having to worry about being run over by bikes on the sidewalk because of this new addition.

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FrutaFertil t1_j95jxmi wrote

Yea it comes off as highly inconsistent to be pro-environment on all fronts except when it comes to putting up a bike lane in front of your shop. I have to admit I prefer other vegetarian restaurants better for the food anyway…

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AstroBuck t1_j93336k wrote

You would think that someone owning a vegan restaurant would also be pro bike. At least from an ideology standpoint.

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FrutaFertil t1_j95k224 wrote

That’s what surprised me as well. Or like at least not anti-bike. We can’t expect everyone to openly support it, but openly detracting is pretty spicy when the ethos of your business is sustainability.

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FranklinDC t1_j919imi wrote

This is small pp energy

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lestermagnum OP t1_j8yix3u wrote

PROVIDENCE – A new, $27 million federal grant could hypothetically cover the cost to finish former Mayor Jorge O. Elorza’s ambitious “urban trail” network.

But after the squabbles over some of the 40 miles of protected bike lanes built before Elorza left office, Mayor Brett Smiley is pressing pause. All safety and public infrastructure upgrades – from bike lanes to speed humps – are under review by his administration, with no plans to start spending the grant until that review is completed, according to Robert Azar, the city’s acting director of planning.

The funding, announced on Feb. 1 through the U.S. Department of Transportations Safe Streets and Roads for All Grant program, is specifically intended for Providence’s urban trail network. That is likely how Elorza, who applied for the grant before he left office, would have used it.

Elorza championed his plan for a 78-mile network of connected, protected bike lanes despite pushback from some businesses and even a lawsuit threat from state transportation officials over lanes on South Water Street.

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But Smiley has taken a more moderated stance on the bike lanes: he says he’s not against them, but he also says he’s not going to move ahead without more review and community input. Lack of funding had also been a problem. The city spent or allocated $8.5 million on the 40 miles of lanes built, but did not have funding identified to finish the other 38 miles when Elorza’s second term ended.

Smiley has also told PBN previously that he’s open to removing some of the bike lanes that have proved particularly unpopular, if the data justifies it.

Smiley was not available to be interviewed for this story but issued an emailed statement in which he pledged to “continue to work closely with our state and federal partners to conduct a thorough review of grants, plans and current infrastructure installments to ensure they are best serving the needs of residents.”

Azar was similarly vague about what the city’s public infrastructure review entails. The scope still hasn’t been defined, but the number of people using the bike lanes, pedestrian and traffic accidents and speeding are potential data sets to consider, he said. Azar also declined to say how long the review would take or when the city plans to start spending the grant money.

The U.S. DOT grant program gives recipients up to five years to spend the funding. The program broadly focuses on pedestrian and roadway safety, so it’s also possible the city could spend some or all of its money on upgrades unrelated to bike lanes, such as traffic lights, crosswalks and speed humps, Azar said.

City Council President Rachel Miller said she would be upset if none of the funding went to the urban trail network, but she didn’t think that would happen. There’s already wide community support for elements of the bike lane plan, including a redesign of Broadway that would improve the safety of the existing, unprotected bike lanes.

Miller also hoped some of the funding would be used to build new bike lanes, creating the citywide, connected network of paths that Elorza envisioned.

“We don’t want to have a situation where we have unconnected streets that are unsafe to navigate,” Miller said. “The ideal is a city that embraces folks coming in and out of different neighborhoods in all different ways.”

To that end, Miller also supported using funds for safety upgrades unrelated to bike lanes, noting that the cycling lanes were one of several tools used to support the broader goal of safe streets for all types of transportation.

Kim Clark, the owner of Rhody Craft LLC, a gift shop on Hope Street, thought bike lanes worsened, rather than improved, safety. After seeing how a trial run of a temporary bike lane on Hope Street in the fall affected area businesses, traffic and parking, her fears for Elorza’s plan solidified. The Hope Street bike lane is one of several in Elorza’s plan that has not been funded.

“I am for safe streets, but not ill-placed bike lanes,” Clark said. “They should not be placed in areas where they will be conflicting with bus routes, delivery routes or commercial districts.”

Clark added, “It would be a shame to spend money on more bike lanes when we’re still begging to have sidewalks fixed.”

Some small businesses revolted after a one-mile bike lane was installed along South Water Street in 2021, changing the two-lane, one-way street into a one-lane road. They also complained about traffic and parking problems and a loss of business.

Sharon Steele, president of the Jewelry District Association, was one of the most vocal opponents of the South Water Street lanes. She denounced the entire network as an “abject failure.”

Steele was glad that Smiley’s administration was reviewing the bike lanes before considering any expansions. Steele also hoped the review would allow for input from businesses and residents to reshape the proposal into a “collaboration rather than assault.”

Elorza while in office routinely defended the research that prompted his plan and the outreach to local property owners, which included mailings and a mix of in-person and online forums. Smiley, however, has acknowledged previously that more opportunity for community input was necessary.

City Councilman John Goncalves, who also backed the South Water Street bike lane despite opposition, agreed that the city was “entitled to do this review” before spending a major sum of money, which also requires a 20% match of city funds or in-kind contributions.

“I don’t equate due diligence with being against the bike lanes,” he said of the mayor’s review plan.

Still, Goncalves said he plans to be an “important voice” in advocating for keeping the South Water Street bike lane in place, along with other safety and access improvements for his constituents.

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Admirable_Bobcat_386 t1_j8ysqnm wrote

I very much hope that Mayor Smiley acts to increase protected bike lanes throughout the city, connecting all neighborhoods and facilitating a transportation option that is quieter, healthier and more climate friendly. Cities that support commuting by bicycles or walking are, in my opinion, much nicer places to live.

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NodularFalse t1_j8yvxlr wrote

It’s too bad that they only got negative quotes re the south water st/hope st bike lanes.

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lestermagnum OP t1_j8yw8xi wrote

I don’t think they released the public surveys from the Hope St lanes yet. They were supposed to be made public in December.

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risquare t1_j8zbngx wrote

To me, this sounds like 4.5 years will be spent studying how to use this money to dismantle existing bike infrastructure and put the rest toward parking or something.

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BOKEH_BALLS t1_j93m1dd wrote

If you build it, they will come. Providence is already tiny AF and having that many cars downtown just makes no fucking sense.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_j97jqoi wrote

Generally, I’m not a big fan of the way that these bike paths are put in, but this is a no brainer. No reason to not support this.

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degggendorf t1_j9a8yqx wrote

Is $27m really enough? I was thinking/assuming any proper road/trail work would be orders of magnitude more expensive. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the scope of the Elorza plan. Is it just painted bike lanes like on Broadway?

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meme-scraperr t1_ja1fw9p wrote

8.5 million on bike lanes is kinda crazy tbh. Can we just start a fund to pay for light rail and every time we want to spend money on something idiotic, Bank the money instead

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Thac0 t1_j91fp70 wrote

Something about sport coats and round wire rimmed glasses makes me uneasy about that fella and seeing that he’s pushing the efforts to make the city more bike and pedestrian friendly we’ll…

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Parlor-soldier t1_j8z6swq wrote

Is there conclusive evidence Bike lanes do anything for safety? Most accidents I have seen are at intersections and bike lanes do nothing for that. Unless we are willing to invest and maintain the infrastructure for separate stop lights with a bike cycle, I don’t really see the point of bike lanes.

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arivas26 t1_j91dcj1 wrote

Yes, study after study. The quickest of google searches will show you that around the world protected bike lanes keep people safer and encourage more people to use their bicycles. It’s not a secret at this point.

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nygrl811 t1_j8zc1zy wrote

And unless cyclists are willing to OBEY THE TRAFFIC LAWS!!!! Bike lanes do jack shit when people fly through red lights - iM oN a BiKe - bicycles are subject to the same laws as cars i clouding stopping at red lights and stop signs.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_j8zqrat wrote

Unless drivers are willing to obey traffic laws, car lanes do jack shit.

I can make stupid arguments too 🤡

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laterbacon t1_j9038cr wrote

The belief that everyone on a bike is some lawless asshole is a wrong one. There have been a bunch of studies about it and I linked a couple below.

Also since you're so concerned about people on bikes obeying traffic laws, when you're in your car I assume you come to a complete and full stop at every stop sign? You must also obey every speed limit every time, never daring to go 30+ in a 25...

Of course, drivers have a great track record around here of obeying traffic laws and being generally respectful.

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Human-Mechanic-3818 t1_j8yynyr wrote

No one uses them. People still ride bikes on the sidewalk. They are a waste of money.

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lightningbolt1987 t1_j8zcqea wrote

I ride on the sidewalk because the streets are too dangerous. It’s time for us to finish this great streets project.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_j8zqy3g wrote

>I ride on the sidewalk because the streets are too dangerous. It’s time for us to finish this great streets project.

Who cares about your life?? I want to park my two parking spot SUV there cuz I ain't walking 30 seconds, stay on the sidewalk fucking poor peasant

/s

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laterbacon t1_j9142rq wrote

If the infrastructure is good, people will use it. Sidewalk riding happens because there is no other safe option. A line of white paint and a glyph of a bicycle is not infrastructure.

https://www.peopleforbikes.org/statistics/economic-benefits

Give me protected bike lanes that actually connect to each other and can get me places, and I'll give up riding on the sidewalk forever. Honestly I hate riding on the sidewalk and only do it as a last resort. Most of them around here are bumpy and uneven, and with all the driveways and other curb cuts it's never a pleasant ride. Riding in the road, where I am legally allowed to be, is the most comfortable from a physical perspective, but from a "all of these cars are going to kill me" perspective it's not great, so the sidewalk looks pretty appealing.

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Human-Mechanic-3818 t1_j91rjck wrote

You aren’t supposed to ride on the sidewalk period. You are supposed to use the traffic lanes like a motor vehicle . If you aren’t confident enough to ride a bicycle in traffic and take the risk then you shouldn’t be biking as a transportation tool. Riding on a sidewalk is extremely dangerous and puts everyone at risk.

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laterbacon t1_j922ct3 wrote

Driving a car is extremely dangerous and it puts everyone at risk. Try riding a bike in traffic sometime. It's not a risk for some people, it's their primary mode of transportation. Advocate for infrastructure that makes everyone safe or deal with bikes on the sidewalk sometimes. Maybe try to imagine how others live their lives not beholden to the automobile

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Winter_Excuse_5564 t1_j92ximc wrote

Bro, you have got to effing chill out. Looking at your post history, and just yikes. You are obsessed with your bike riding thing. Like a lifestyle is one thing, but an obsession is another.

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laterbacon t1_j92yrcy wrote

I'm the one who needs to chill says the person combing through a stranger's Reddit post history.

I'm not living a "lifestyle." It's literally my main method of transportation.

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lals80 t1_j8zn9jc wrote

This works out to about $1m a rider. Pie in the sky idea which the city will never maintain

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