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Radrunner17 t1_j381biv wrote

Reply to comment by Proof-Variation7005 in Providence man sentenced to 40 years for shooting a police officer by Meatball_Grinder

If you can’t see how plain clothes makes a difference in a response then you’re being intentionally obtuse. There are several court cases that have had altered judgements or rulings simply because the officer was in plain clothes. (Assuming this is true)

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j387pz1 wrote

For running away or not complying with some instruction? Sure, plain clothes makes a difference. It makes a huge difference.

For whipping out a gun in the laundromat and starting a shootout in broad daylight? No, it fucking does not matter.

Also,take a look at what two of the cops look like. You could see those dudes dressed up in literally any outfit imaginable and you'd be like "Those guys are cops, right?"

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Bobisadrummer t1_j38d4ed wrote

That cop sure does find himself in this kind situation a lot…

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Radrunner17 t1_j38823n wrote

It does matter, but I see here there is a lack of nuance. Also those guys probably look like any other person without a uniform. Not sure what you were implying by that.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j389xcp wrote

I'm implying the original assertion / implication that they might be a rival gang targeting him is absurd.

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Radrunner17 t1_j38a4hj wrote

If those men were in plain clothes you wouldn’t think they were in gang? How can you come to that conclusion without seeing them in plain clothes I’m confused.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j38kqbb wrote

A) This is assuming they were plain clothes which is only coming from 1 person's "Dude, trust me"

B) One of those cops looks like he was ripped out of google image search for "cop haircut"

C) If you've had enough prior run-ins with law enforcement where they know you on sight, odds are you probably recognize a few cops yourself. As I just said in other comment, I think it's more likely that he knew exactly who they were, rather than he mistook them for rival gang members.

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Bobisadrummer t1_j38mc5g wrote

You act as if cops don’t lie all the time and that journalists don’t publish those lies as fact. That cop has a history of harassing people. You keep giving your opinion on things you have zero fucking clue about. The epitome of some cringe ass armchair expert redditor.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j38uxji wrote

>You act as if cops don’t lie all the time and that journalists don’t publish those lies as fact

What are you specifically alleging is a lie here? Obviously, that fucking happens.

I think it's possible to acknowledge that and that maybe the dude with the long-ass rap sheet who tried to kill the cops on sight maybe isn't the good guy either. That's not middle ground the middle ground. It's just common sense.

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Bobisadrummer t1_j38wuzd wrote

>long-ass rap sheet

Once again just making shit up.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j395avp wrote

CourtConnect is free and easy to use. I counted at least 8 different arrests / sets of charges from the start of 2018 up until (and not including) this incident in August of 2019.

That is a long-ass rap sheet. This isn't even fucking debatable.

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Bobisadrummer t1_j39ikkl wrote

Once again, you do not understanding what you’re talking about and I’m completely out of patiences trying to explain this shit to you. Keep believing all the lies the cops say and the news publishes. They didn’t even get the sentencing right. He didn’t get 40 years.

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Bobisadrummer t1_j38doma wrote

Because that dude likes to speak not from experience, but from his own judgmental point of views. He tried to tell me, someone who drives an ambulance for a living, that I should be fired if I drove the speed limit… as if I don’t know the rules and policies for my job.

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