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Georgie___Best t1_jcve68m wrote

Reply to comment by ZmeiOtPirin in Loss of Menin helps drive the aging process, and dietary supplement can reverse it in mice by geoxol

You deny that we are able to overcome any of the restrictions evolution has imposed on us? So any time a child is born premature and survives due to modern medicine, when they would have died otherwise, that is what exactly? Any time someone with a genetic predisposition to cardiovascular disease is saved with at coronary artery bypass, what are we doing if we are not preventing a consequence of evolution?

Maybe try having a few days think before replying this time.

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ZmeiOtPirin t1_jcvkln7 wrote

Dude your comment is so utterly ignorant, you should maybe have a few days to read about what evolution is before writing.

Evolution isn't merely about dying. Yes it's a big part of it, and I did call it "crucial" too, but there's so much more to the process, it isn't even the biggest part. Number one, it's about spreading genes. Procreation is even more important than survival and leads to evolution on its own. Stopping death doesn't stop evolution by any means...

Secondly none of the cases you listed are examples of beating or preventing evolution or anything. They are just examples of a species dealing with problems in its own way.

You don't think beavers building dams or termites building a mound to avoid dying from floods is them cheating evolution, do you? Just because you make things to avoid dying doesn't mean you're avoiding evolution. Quite the contrary, you're fulfilling it. Your beneficial traits allowed you to survive where you otherwise wouldn't have and henceforth the living world will be more filled with the genes providing these beneficial traits. Smartness, culture and transfer of knowledge, as exemplified by humans, are clearly successful traits and they have lead to us becoming the most dominant mammal on Earth. To the point that humans and the species we use for food make up the weight of 90% of all mammal biomass... That's evolution in action.

And when some unfortunate person in Brazil or India or the US can't be saved by a coronary artery bypass because it isn't free and they were born too dumb to have a nice job and afford it, or too sickly to keep up with all their disases or too asocial to have a nice support network; then that would be evolution too. But the far more common type of evolution in the 21st century would be when some human beings are having more kids raised to adulthood than others. Evolution is here, alive and well.

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Georgie___Best t1_jcvl2vb wrote

>Evolution isn't merely about dying.

Please highlight where I said this.

>Evolution is here, alive and well.

Or where I claimed evolution is something that isn't happening.

Like I said, you should have spent more time reading/thinking before replying.

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ZmeiOtPirin t1_jcvlrgk wrote

There's not a single interpretation of "preventing a consequence of evolution" that is factually correct. You do seem to believe and imply that avoiding death prevents evolution. I'm not really sure what you think "consequences of evolution" are, but death is no more a consequence than living, breeding or having a drink by the beach are evolutionary consequences.

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