butcher99 t1_jckpq89 wrote on March 17, 2023 at 3:18 PM

Reply to comment by Knute5 in Study of 1.65M COVID Vaccine Doses Finds Rare "Myocarditis" Generally Mild—More Than Half of Patients Didn't Need to be Hospitalized by Voices4Vaccines

Aspiration is routine. It is so routine, it is automatic. Not a matter of forgetting once it becomes that routine.

Mountainstreams t1_jclne9d wrote on March 17, 2023 at 6:53 PM

Aspiration wasn't done very much in the mass vaccination centers in Ireland, that was because a lot of military etc were called up on short notice to help with the rollout.

weird_elf t1_jcmb57e wrote on March 17, 2023 at 9:30 PM

It's not routine for most vaccinations any more (at least not in my part of Europe). It takes longer, is potentially uncomfortable for the patient, and doesn't make the "classical" vaccinations any safer. (e.g. MMR or polio boosters don't mess you up if they get into the blood stream.)

Once people figured out it was different for this one (thanks, spike protein) and the vascular complications seen in some covid infections could also happen post-vax if the spike got loose in the blood vessels, aspiration was recommended. This was some time last year, I believe.

I got the second booster just before christmas last year, at a vax center, and had to explicitly request aspiration. It's still not routine everywhere.

butcher99 t1_jd1lg91 wrote on March 21, 2023 at 4:09 AM

You would not even notice. All they do is withdraw the plunger a cm or so and look for blood.

weird_elf t1_jd2xp1f wrote on March 21, 2023 at 1:41 PM

I know how aspiration works. I also saw one doc at a "vax drive" kind of thing jabbing people so quickly they literally didn't even notice what was going on, and that definitely won't work if you try and aspirate.

I say "potentially uncomfortable" because that's what the expert in the video said. I guess it's mostly uncomfortable for people with a fear of needles.