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uninstallIE t1_isywe8o wrote

Phytoestrogens in soy are actually beneficial to both men and women. They are far less potent than the mammalian estrogens already in your body, and bind to the same receptors. This reduces the incidence of estrogen dependent cancers. It doesn't cause men to grow breasts. This is a weird scaremongering tactic not backed up by any science

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borntorunathon t1_it18y3m wrote

Same people that can’t understand that a vaccine can have dangerous sounding ingredients but be safe once the ingredients are combined.

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uninstallIE t1_it2cmaj wrote

Ain't that the truth! I once had to explain to my father that elemental lithium in the water and lithium citrate the anti psychotic medication are not the same thing

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18Apollo18 t1_it83idi wrote

>Ain't that the truth! I once had to explain to my father that elemental lithium in the water and lithium citrate the anti psychotic medication are not the same thing

Elemental lithium doesn't even naturally occur on Earth at all. Let alone in the water supply.

And I'm not sure why you're saying the lithium salts in water/food are different from those in medications.

The World Health Organization recognizes lithium as a nutritionally essential trace element which can be safely consumed through drinking water, plant-based foods, or very low-dose supplementation.

Naturally occurring lithium in water supplies is associated with low levels of suicide.

If you're referring to intoxication that can happen when there's high concentrations of lithium salts in water supplies and trying to suggest that that doesn't happen with medications then that's it correct either.

Lithium salts are used mainly for acute mania and prophylaxis of recurrent bipolar and unipolar affective disorders. Toxicity may occur either during maintenance therapy or following acute intoxication. Lithium salts may cause hypothyroidism, which may aggravate the ataxia. Acute intoxication may affect the cardiovascular, renal, and/or nervous system. The spectrum of neurological deficits is broad: coma, seizures, coarse tremor, hypokinesia, rigidity, hyperreflexia

Lithium is widely distributed on Earth but does not naturally occur in its elemental form due to its high reactivity. Trace amounts of lithium are found in virtually all rocks.

Nutritional lithium, consumed through drinking water, plant-based foods, or low-dose supplementation, is a well-tolerated naturally occurring nutrient. The World Health Organization recognizes lithium as a nutritionally essential trace element

This synthesis of ecological studies, which are subject to the ecological fallacy/bias, supports the hypothesis that there is a protective (or inverse) association between lithium intakes from public drinking water and suicide mortality at the population level. Naturally occurring lithium in drinking water may have the potential to reduce the risk of suicide and may possibly help in mood stabilisation, particularly in populations with relatively high suicide rates and geographical areas with a greater range of lithium concentration in the drinking water. All the available evidence suggests that randomised community trials of lithium supplementation of the water supply might be a means of testing the hypothesis, particularly in communities (or settings) with demonstrated high prevalence of mental health conditions, violent criminal behaviour, chronic substance misuse and risk of suicide.

Lithium salts are used mainly for acute mania and prophylaxis of recurrent bipolar and unipolar affective disorders. Toxicity may occur either during maintenance therapy or following acute intoxication. The most common side effect of chronic treatment is an enhanced physiological tremor affecting mainly the hands. Lithium salts may cause hypothyroidism, which may aggravate the ataxia (see also Amiodarone). Acute intoxication may affect the cardiovascular, renal, and/or nervous system (Simard et al., 1989). The spectrum of neurological deficits is broad: coma, seizures, coarse tremor, hypokinesia, rigidity, hyperreflexia. High fever is common during intoxication. A neuroleptic malignant syndrome is often suspected since neuroleptics and lithium salts are often administered in combination in psychiatric patients. Although neurological signs are usually reversible after acute intoxication, patients may exhibit a severe cerebellar syndrome with scanning speech, tremor, and ataxic gait (Manto et al., 1996). Intensive care monitoring is recommended to prevent irreversible sequelae

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18Apollo18 t1_it4ab27 wrote

There actually are several adverse effects associated with certain ingredients in vaccines, such as Thinersol.

Vaccines can also be easily made without these ingredients so there's really no need in the first place.

The results of the present examination of the VAERS show a significant relationship between the Thimerosal-containing childhood vaccines evaluated and childhood neurodevelopmental disorders. The data demonstrate that a significant risk factor for the development of neurodevelopmental disorders was the amount of mercury children received from Thimerosal-containing childhood immunizations. Taken collectively, the increased risk associated with all seven neurodevelopmental disorders examined, any of which could independently be an indicator of possible mercury toxicity, proffers significant evidence for an association between the Thimerosal-containing vaccines evaluated in the present study and neurodevelopmental disorders based on this controlled assessment of VAERS.

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GladstoneBrookes t1_isytv8e wrote

Neither soy nor isoflavone intake affects male reproductive hormones: An expanded and updated meta-analysis of clinical studies

> Regardless of the statistical model, no significant effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on any of the outcomes measured were found. Sub-analysis of the data according to isoflavone dose and study duration also showed no effect. This updated and expanded meta-analysis indicates that regardless of dose and study duration, neither soy protein nor isoflavone exposure affects TT [total testosterone], FT [free testosterone], E2 [estradiol], or E1 [estrone] levels in men.

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glichez t1_iszienk wrote

then you should really avoid beer. soy isn't the issue.

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh22-3/220.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0B3BpRJ8JeAcbVtlU37hwn5UE_-CovlC4Fr_4eHboD-tz3MpGYsWYffSY

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PlaneReaction8700 t1_isysuir wrote

There is nothing wrong with eating soy, and studies show vegetarians and vegans on average have higher testosterone levels than omnivores, not less. There is no downside to consuming soy, and huge benefits.

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Alive_Technician_330 t1_isyv7tp wrote

>and studies show vegetarians and vegans on average have higher testosterone levels than omnivores, not less.

No they dont

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uninstallIE t1_isywg9i wrote

You're in the wrong place, we can all read scientific studies here

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minirlz t1_iszzm27 wrote

Why aren't you responding to the studies presented? You are speaking with such confidence here, surely you must know something?

Weird.

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cammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm t1_it1zdy1 wrote

The loudest and most confident are generally the ones who have no idea what they're talking about. I'm often amazed how they've managed to stay alive sometimes, you do have to give them credit where its due

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radant25116 t1_iszmng2 wrote

Yeah they do and much more than carnivores who have the average test levels of an elderly woman

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IPA___Fanatic t1_it0cdm2 wrote

They actually do. I know it hurts to be wrong sometimes.

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