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realJanetSnakehole t1_iszsqmi wrote

Reply to comment by Darwins_Dog in Protein quality of soy and the effect of processing: A quantitative review. This quantitative review confirms that the majority of soy products have high protein quality scores. by grandlewis

I was just making conversation? I'm sorry if that's not allowed in this sub

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PotsAndPandas t1_it03rma wrote

And how are they not making conversation back? Sounds like you've come here looking to be offended

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Darwins_Dog t1_it03yex wrote

Apologies, I misread your comment. There's a weird anti-vegan group in this sub that show up to try to demonize plant based diets (they've been in this thread already). Soy is a favorite target.

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realJanetSnakehole t1_it08civ wrote

No problem, I apologize too, I wasn't intending to start a fight haha. I used to be vegetarian until I developed food sensitivities to basically everything, and I've bounced around in both the vegan and anti-vegan subs trying to dig up clues about the optimal diet for me. I've seen the arguments about soy from both sides and I know how inflammatory the debate can get. My personal experience is that I have reactions to eating even small amounts of soy, which takes that away as a protein option. I learned from my doctor that soy sensitivity is more common than people think saved often gets missed because there's soy oil in basically every processed food in the US, and people don't think of food that's supposed to be healthy like soy as something that could be causing their symptoms.

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LenokanBuchanan t1_it09ken wrote

Can I ask what your symptoms are? Is tempeh an issue as well for you?

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realJanetSnakehole t1_it0biyv wrote

Always starts with foggy headedness, then cramping, then bloating and "bathroom problems" for the next day or so. If I keep eating things with soy regularly I get eczema on my hands. And I'm actually not sure if I've ever had tempeh!

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VeganSinnerVeganSain t1_it0tqpw wrote

out of curiosity, do you have this same reaction with other legumes or beans - or peas or split peas?
any peanut allergies?

seriously asking.

on another note:

the main reason these studies are even done (like the one in this review) is because so many anti-vegans think vegans don't get enough protein (which is very ignorant, on so many levels).
they also like to use terms like "soy boy" as a derogatory quip - which is also very ignorant, because the reasons they use that as a taunt has been proven wrong and can easily be countered with facts.

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LenokanBuchanan t1_it0t83g wrote

Interesting! I frequently have foggy headed mess and I seem to get GI issues flaring up every time I go on a run. I’ve always thought the foggy head was from my medication, but I am vegan so I eat a lot of soy products. So this whole thing just has me wondering…

I ask about tempeh because it’s fermented soy, which many people report does not cause any of the intolerance reactions of regular soy. It would be interesting to compare the two.

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Flowchart83 t1_it0aw32 wrote

If it wasn't allowed your comment wouldn't be here. You are completely allowed, you just don't like the reaction. Your comment, the reaction, and your dislike of the reaction are all allowed.

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