Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

A_Light_Spark t1_iviad2f wrote

Reply to comment by Rich_Acanthisitta_70 in Genomic analysis of 3-6,000 year old watermelon seeds finds the fruit likely had bitter pulp and greenish-white flesh, and may have been consumed primarily for its seeds by bobstonite

The first pic is not a good one because that also what unripe watermelons looks now.
Also the eggplant one is bad. Indian eggplants still look very similar: https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Indian_Eggplant_9087.php
And even for the american species, they look like an egg when young, thus the name.
And then there are also italian and thai eggplants to say the least, not to mention all the heirloom ones:
https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/heirloom-eggplant-varieties-zewz1308zpit/

2

Rich_Acanthisitta_70 t1_iviaxyi wrote

The one in the pic is what a ripe one looked like in the 17th century. And even unripe ones now have a lot more melon than than those before.

1

Rich_Acanthisitta_70 t1_ivicyet wrote

This isn't speculation. This is settled information about the changes that've been made to the most popular and widely consumed vegetables and fruits.

You're comparing young fruits and vegetables with what ripe ones looked like centuries before.

You're also referencing more obscure plants and variations as if they're representative of the more common ones that have the widest distribution. They aren't.

Your conclusions and claims are inaccurate and in bad faith. That's not just disingenuous and misleading - it's outright false information and has no place on this sub.

0

A_Light_Spark t1_ivif060 wrote

All you did was refer to some tabloid website and then you call what they say as "facts". Really now? I just showed you modern day varieties of two plants that people actively harvest and consume on a daily basis, but apparently I'm spreading false information? Instead of typing up a word salad, why don't you give me some actual examples?

0

Rich_Acanthisitta_70 t1_ivifebv wrote

You referenced a specialty produce supplier and motherearthnews. You're projecting, and wrong.

1

TopRamenisha t1_ivit925 wrote

They aren’t wrong just because you don’t like their sources. China and India cultivated eggplant varieties for thousands of years. Eggplant was introduced to the Americas in the early 1500s, with varieties that are similar or the same as varieties we have available to this day. You’re calling this “settled information” when it’s not settled.

1