Bikrdude t1_ix3mh0l wrote on November 20, 2022 at 2:31 PM

Reply to comment by ButterflyCatastrophe in Cold exposure induces dynamic changes in circulating triacylglycerol species, which is dependent on intracellular lipolysis: A randomized cross-over trial (Nov 2022) by basmwklz

If they didn't provide the temperature the work is not high quality

ButterflyCatastrophe t1_ix43151 wrote on November 20, 2022 at 4:33 PM

Eh. They chilled everyone until they started shivering, then warmed them until they stopped. Temps are going to depend on individual body shape, fat distribution, and who knows what else. I can see an argument where the average wouldn't be particularly informative, and might be easily misinterpreted as a special bathing temperature that triggers TG release. It'd be nice to know; it'd be nice to have core temperature records; but there's always improvements to offer after the fact.

"Not high quality" is undeserved.

FailOsprey t1_ix46lzy wrote on November 20, 2022 at 4:58 PM

What your saying makes sense. From an ethical standpoint, shivering seems like a safe gauge of when to heat up the water. It takes away the ability to control the water temperature, which is bad, but it reduces the likelihood of lawsuits and harm.