em_goldman t1_j6zs1ws wrote on February 3, 2023 at 1:13 AM

Reply to comment by crua9 in ChatGPT Passes US Medical Licensing Exams Without Cramming by RareGur3157

I’m a doctor who works with a ton of nurses -

It’s a vocation that needs to be taught from a human, to a human, mostly in the setting that the work will be done.
It’s important to have a basic understanding of medicine to be a nurse so you don’t accidentally kill someone when something happens out-of-the-algorithm.

Example: someone with too high of a blood sugar needs insulin. So if they’re in a state called diabetic ketoacidosis, they have an incredibly high blood sugar, so you’d think the first step is insulin, right? But insulin causes potassium to move into cells, and people’s total body potassium is super low in DKA because it’s getting peed out, despite their potassium blood levels looking fine. So if you push insulin, you’re going to cause all the potassium to shift into the cells, which can give someone a heart attack.

You can (and do) train people to memorize algorithms like “potassium and fluids, then insulin.” But I want the nurses who work with me to be their own smart, critically thinking, educated selves - it’s safer, it’s more rewarding, and your team gives better care.

Most schools nowadays, for anything, are outdated and largely bullshit. My medical classroom schooling from my school was disorganized and useless. I learned the material using 3rd-party online resources and Anki. My in-person training is what matters the most.

crua9 t1_j70o455 wrote on February 3, 2023 at 5:40 AM

Based on 3, I'm assuming you are agreeing with me that it is pure BS. The hands on is needed. But forcing them to take stupid things like art or whatever that has nothing to do with the job is BS money making crap with the excuse of "well rounded".

As far as your first part. IDK if AI should teach doctors yet. Like eventually I think robots will have to be good enough for the basics. I imagine at some point, any humanoid robot you have in your house will double as bottom level medical care. Like they are good for finding if there is a problem, dealing with cuts, and so on. Not so much with fixing a broken bone or whatever.

But at some point it will have to be better and adapt. I don't think we are anywhere near this.

Anyways, I can see at some point nurses and doctors being complete replaced by robots in many areas. Like there is 2 options.

Option 1: Many hospitals, homes, etc will have humanoid robot. A human doctor can remote in through the robot and control it, feel, hear, etc as if the doctor is there. Maybe even smell depending on if the hardware allows for it or there is some brain implant in the doctor.

Anyways, this makes it where the person can be at home, a hotel, or even the moon. And the doctor can interact with the person as if they are there.

Option 2: The AI will keep getting better and better to the point where human doctors will be obsolete.

Both cases, your job is safe. But there will be a time where just like truck drivers today can see it with self driving around the corner. The ones driving today are likely the last generation in that career.