TFenrir t1_j960l6m wrote on February 19, 2023 at 2:57 PM

Reply to comment by lehcarfugu in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

? Can you clarify what you mean by stifle innovation?

lehcarfugu t1_j9639ur wrote on February 19, 2023 at 3:18 PM

Well it appears that previous inventions they open sourced are going to hurt their bottom line. The transformer came from Google, and most of what you are seeing now stems from Google

It might be in their best interest to stop open sourcing stuff that will only benefit their competition

TFenrir t1_j96815w wrote on February 19, 2023 at 3:52 PM

Ah I get you. Yeah, here's the complicated thing though - Google generally provides the most valuable AI research every year, especially if you include DeepMind.

https://thundermark.medium.com/ai-research-rankings-2022-sputnik-moment-for-china-64b693386a4

If suddenly they decide that it's more important to be... Let's say cautious, about what papers they release, what impact is that going to have? Are other companies going to step up and provide more research, or are they all going to be more cautious about sharing their findings?

blueSGL t1_j96kgc1 wrote on February 19, 2023 at 5:19 PM

It's all fine and good being a benevolent company that decides it's going to fund (but not release) research.

Are the people actually developing this researches going to be happy grinding away at problems at a company and not have anything they've created shared?

and see another research institute gain kudos for something they'd already created 6months to a year prior but it's locked in the google vault?

TFenrir t1_j96l9m3 wrote on February 19, 2023 at 5:25 PM

Yeah I think this is already playing out to some degree, with some attrition from Google Brain to OpenAI.

I don't know how much is just... Normal poaching and attrition, and how much is related to different ideologies, but I think Google will have to pivot significantly to prevent something more substantial happening to their greatest asset.