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HeinrichTheWolf_17 t1_jdw6waw wrote

Software is always ahead of hardware, software is more useful for more white collar desk jobs, and hardware is more useful in blue collar physical jobs.

Needless to say, Truckers, Contractors and Garbagemen may be the last people to lose their jobs.

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WATER-GOOD-OK-YES t1_jdwddey wrote

Society mocks truckers and garbagemen. In the future, they will be the ones to have the last laugh.

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28mmAtF8 t1_jdwfvb8 wrote

I don't think society mocks them nearly as much as they perceive. Their management on the other hand, welcome to gaslight city.

(source, have done delivery jobs, worked with truckers and the scumbag management they're usually shafted with)

Edit: Ew, that brings up an uglier point too. If AI is going to take an even more aggressive role in management that means the knock-on effects for blue collar workers won't be all that pleasant either.

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PrivateLudo t1_jdxnc2d wrote

I think society mocks them in some way. Ive worked in those kind of dirty blue collar jobs before and some people straight up told me "when are you going to study and have a real job?" Like…. what the hell???? Im getting paid very well, i dont need to get a "real job". How are those essential jobs not a real job?

Society wouldn’t even be able to function at all without the dirty blue collar jobs. Its just sad that society promotes jobs in finance that dont really contribute anything aside from numbers going up meanwhile plumbers, electricians, mechanics, janitors are seen as bottom of the barrel and low iq works. Theyre the foundations of this society, nothing would work without them.

There’s a big sense of delusion in society where people subconsciously feel superior intellectually because they’re doing a clean office job.

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CrazyShrewboy t1_jdxql3v wrote

its because it takes way more perceived effort and way less people are willing to climb the enormous mountain of working a complex highly educated job.

But anyone can do blue collar work (as long as they are physically able) so the people working those jobs are less refined. They dont have as good soft skills, social skills, etc. But they are still good at solving problems and as you said they are essential.

Ive worked blue and white collar and they both have lots of pros and cons, but white collar is much better once you are experienced in your field

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PrivateLudo t1_jdy672b wrote

I understand your point. I just wish people respected those kind of jobs more. Nothing wrong doing those kinds of jobs, not everybody wants to be a flashy businessman, designer or silicon valley techie

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Azuladagio t1_jdxrst9 wrote

Don't worry, AI won't be arrogant like them when they inevitably get replaced by it.

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Rofel_Wodring t1_jdwdxax wrote

For about eighteen months, tops. Assuming they're one of the lucky ones who weren't undercut by some desperate nursing school dropout willing to work for peanuts.

Actually, trucker might go by faster than even garbageman. I can totally imagine a setup where you have a camera mounted on the car that's also connected to a mountable robot that's attached to and directly manipulates the drive train. Such a setup wouldn't even require the employer to buy new vehicles, just the drive train parasite.

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CravingNature t1_jdwkdpq wrote

> Assuming they're one of the lucky ones who weren't undercut by some desperate nursing school dropout willing to work for peanuts.

This is key. Supply and demand. Wages will drop all around from decreased supply and increased demand.

If Universal Healthcare and UBI aren't top issues in the next election we are more trouble than most expect.

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shmoculus t1_jdxtjsa wrote

I think the problem is that if other jobs get automated out, there will be a lot of competition for the existing jobs which will drive wages into the ground.

So a future without UBI and sufficient new human jobs will be really bad for existing wage growth in existing roles as people retrain into whatever they need to.

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FoodMadeFromRobots t1_jdxwpq8 wrote

Contractors yah i agree i think that will be almost last on the list. Truckers and garbage men? Idk, i'll be honest in saying i was too optimistic on the self driving car timeline and thought we would have cracked it by now but i feel with recent advances thats coming sooner than later and then arguably 95% of garbage collection (at least where i live) could be automated the second you get the self driving down. Its normally just a truck that pulls up and uses a mechanical arm to dump the bin. If you added some degrees of motion/made the claw more nuanced it could pick up random objects besides the bins. Realize there are a lot of edge cases but once you get a program that can drive the car and identify trash/vs not trash you've got the vast majority covered.

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reptilot t1_jdy8nas wrote

> Needless to say, Truckers, Contractors and Garbagemen may be the last people to lose their jobs.

The irony that Yang campaigned so hard on truckers being first on the chopping block.

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Grand_Milk63 t1_jdzwoss wrote

I don’t know. Self driving vehicles will probably be here eventually. My garbage men don’t get out of the truck unless they really need to and usually they leave the items not in a standard can.

I live in suburbs so

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