thegoldengoober t1_jcjoau6 wrote on March 17, 2023 at 9:37 AM

Reply to comment by foxgoesowo in Those who know... by Destiny_Knight

I would love to not underestimate them. I assumed Google was way ahead of the game compared to everybody else. But Microsoft and Open AI keep showing off more and more impressive shit and applying it in actually practical ways, and Google hasn't shown anything comparable in that regard. Afaik, at least.

SnipingNinja t1_jcjtxqb wrote on March 17, 2023 at 10:51 AM

Google hasn't released a chatbot but they just announced integration with their office suite, which Microsoft also announced soon after.

Honestly that'll be the best use in the short term.

Charuru t1_jck5od3 wrote on March 17, 2023 at 12:50 PM

Integration isn't as impressive as quality though, what's the IQ level of Bard? Do we have any indication?

SnipingNinja t1_jck9udf wrote on March 17, 2023 at 1:25 PM

No indications as of yet, there are papers like palm-e, et al but bard is based on a smaller version of lamda which is a trained version of palm IIRC, so it's hard to draw any inference.

thegoldengoober t1_jcl955u wrote on March 17, 2023 at 5:21 PM

That's exactly what i mean though. I've been able to use Bing Chat for week, and now GPT-4 by itself for days and I know it's performance. And it's crazy good. We're multiple releases into GPT LLMs. We have open source models. All these have been extensively used and explored by people. We can't say the same for anything Google has developed.

SnipingNinja t1_jclacik wrote on March 17, 2023 at 5:29 PM

Honestly, I understand where you're coming from. The latest episode of MKBHD's podcast (WVFRM) released just a few hours ago had a discussion on their new announcements and mentioned why they think Google is behaving the way it is, it's kind of along the same lines as what you're saying.

thegoldengoober t1_jclb6kj wrote on March 17, 2023 at 5:34 PM

I initially took Google at face value and believed they were apprehensive about releasing due to bad actors. I thought Google was way ahead of everyone, and that all it was gonna take would be for them to apply their systems to products to match the competition. But now we've seen that competition, and we've only seen claims from Google.

I mean obviously they have work done. Impressive work based on demonstrations and papers. But even knowing that it still feels like somewhere along the line they got complacent and fell behind what we're seeing now, and this behavior is them trying to stall and catch back up.

Which is not what I expected for the time that competition finally forced their hand as far as AI is concerned.