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Ijustdowhateva t1_itsmst2 wrote

Reply to comment by 2D_VR in Our Conscious Experience of the World Is But a Memory, Says New Theory by Shelfrock77

Except you were always going to imagine those specific futures and pick that specific one.

There's no mental gymnastics to get you out of this.

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was_der_Fall_ist t1_ittd06d wrote

And yet the capacity to imagine possible futures and pick the possible actions that best align with our desires makes humans categorically distinct from, say, rocks, in a way that could easily be described using the term “free will.” Humans are a kind of being that deliberates between their possible actions and rocks aren’t, therefore we say humans have free will and rocks don’t. Determinism doesn’t really play into this view at all. Whether or not the physical laws of the universe necessitated your specific choices from the moment of the Big Bang, nevertheless you are still making those choices. You are still the kind of being that makes choices; the kind of being that deliberates between possibilities; the kind of being who is, practically speaking, free.

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Lawjarp2 t1_ittguow wrote

All possibilities occur. There is no free will when everything that can happen happens.

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red75prime t1_itvfq06 wrote

You have to be a god to observe it though. I guess that you aren't, so if you write down something like "I decided to do such and such, because so and so" and you aren't prone to procrastination and impulsivity, you'll find yourself doing that and not some other random thing. And the question is: why do you care?

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NotLondoMollari t1_itvxdfg wrote

Sure, across the multiverse. But perhaps free will is actually choosing which outcome to observe.

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Ijustdowhateva t1_ittdjxr wrote

This is a lot of cope.

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BinyaminDelta t1_ittloxr wrote

You're the one desperately trying to convince people that they have no influence over their own existence.

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Ijustdowhateva t1_ittume3 wrote

I'm not desperately trying to convince anyone of anything, your opinion on the matter has already been determined.

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