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stupendousman t1_iuuk27t wrote

An AI acting as bureaucrat taking from some people and giving those takings to others is better than a human bureaucrat.

Great, more efficient unethical, grotesque bureaucracy.

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OutOfBananaException t1_iuvmtuy wrote

As long as it's less unethical and grotesque, which it arguably can be, that's a win

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stupendousman t1_iuwgiha wrote

No.

The unethical part is using the initiation of force and threats to control people. Whether some controllers preferences are achieved more efficiently have nothing to do with it.

Once we have AGI maybe they'll be able to explain basic ethics and freedom of association to you better than I.

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ninjasaid13 t1_iuwut9o wrote

>The unethical part is using the initiation of force and threats to control people.

who's doing that?

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stupendousman t1_iuxcum7 wrote

The enforcement arm of the state, also known as the police. You might have heard of them.

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OutOfBananaException t1_iuwx1xy wrote

World is not a tidy black or white, there is a spectrum. There is more and less ethical, and an AI system will definitely have a better grasp of how to make things more ethical. Not perfect, just incrementally better. Whether controllers choose to leverage it for that, is another question.

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stupendousman t1_iuxd9nm wrote

> There is more and less ethical

No there is more or less harm. Ethics are black and white. It seems you're conflating ethics with dispute resolution and resulting possible compensation. These are two different things.

>and an AI system will definitely have a better grasp of how to make things more ethical.

If an AI made things ethical most people would be aghast at their previous behaviors/advocacies.

Self-ownership and derived rights will be the AGIs ethical framework. *If they choose to be ethical.

>Whether controllers

Won't be controllers if technological innovation proceeds apace. Decentralization is the future.

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OutOfBananaException t1_iv06t84 wrote

What nonsense, not all unethical behaviour is equal. AI won't be magic, it can't wish away all the unethical things in this world.

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stupendousman t1_iv2y3ut wrote

> What nonsense, not all unethical behaviour is equal.

I didn't argue that.

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