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t1_iwufr9k wrote

If it is not quantifiable or measurable in some way, then by empirical principles, it does not exist.

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t1_iwvqxbi wrote

Nonsense. So your experience of the color red does not exist? (I'm not talking about the wavelength or frequency of the color red which are correlates of that color).

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t1_iwvrgp3 wrote

But we can indeed observe and quantify red. Can we do the same for concioussness though? We can not, what we perceive as concioussness, is an emergent property of our brain, or simply a non-existent thing.

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t1_iwvrre9 wrote

You're confusing the experience of the color red with correlates of the color such as frequently and wavelength. You don't understand what's known as "the hard problem of consciousness."

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t1_iwvtxvd wrote

Well, if it is not by experience of a thing, we can know a thing, then I do not know how else can we know? Imagining how the thing should function?

As far as I can tell, "the hard problem of conciousness" is not a a fully accepted fact within neuroscience, as such, I will not comment on it. Though, since I take the stance of a determinist, I think the experience of the color red is shaped by how culture imbues symbolism onto a wavelenght, and previous positive or negative responses towards red things.

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