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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwyw2df wrote

You're not arguing for super-determinism right?

Super-determinism doesn't really work in light of the inherent randomness of quantum mechanics.

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Kaarssteun OP t1_iwyzuxx wrote

im not too sure what superdeterminism is. I do however, not believe in randomness. There can always be some hidden variable that we have not yet found, or are plainly incapable of perceiving, that is controlling seemingly rancom processes.

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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwz06ma wrote

Someone has to disprove Bell's Theorem for there to be hidden variables. Very few physicists believe hidden variables are possible.

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Kaarssteun OP t1_iwz1u13 wrote

I'm somewhat familiar with bell's theorem, which disproves local determinism. Superdeterminism is what circumvents bell's theorem, no?

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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwz2g3k wrote

Yeah, Bell's Theorem or Bell's inequality states that there is a maximum bound between the correlations of particles in hidden local variable theories, which doesn't match with experimentation.

Superdeterminism is a loophole in this because it calls into question the ability of researchers to freely and independently choose their experiments. By changing this assumption, some superdeterministic models can violate Bell's inequalities. The problem is superdeterminism isn't really testable.

Edit: well let me rephrase that. Superdeterminism isn't testable right now. The only way to test this would be to rewind the state of the universe via simulation all the way back to the beginning of time and see if exactly the same things happen. We still may never be able to do this accurately enough to test, but I don't want to leave out the possibility.

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LokkoLori t1_ix0ihqz wrote

Superdeterminism is a twisted workaround to save the belief of determinism. But in this case I really don't know what's the point, local determinism has been disproven, so the classic causality has been failed ... What else we want to save?

The ability of nature to fetch random information from nothing is quite handy, if you like to explain how this reality has popped into the existence.

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