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sumane12 t1_j1yyzc4 wrote

Reply to comment by red75prime in And how will apartments be distributed in an economy where there will be an Universal basic income? by Awkward-Skill-6029

I also see it as unlikely anytime soon, but having AI doing ALL jobs, you will have civil war if we are forced to hold onto the concept of wealth in that world. Having inequality in our current system is mildly tolerated because in theory it's possible to work hard and earn your own wealth, if AI are doing all jobs, that's not possible so any inequality would not be tolerable.

That's what I'm saying, it's easy to throw words around like "AI doing ALL jobs" but I don't think people truly understand how different that world is.

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red75prime t1_j1yzeub wrote

AIs will not be doing political governance though, but quenching inequality outrage would be an interesting task for them to solve.

Of course, I don't know for certain, but I highly confident in inertia of human society. Political activity, when you have no other meaningful things to do (if you aren't into VR), could be a driving force of societal change, but it would be opposed by existing political structures.

All in all, I see the future of Earth as a kind of ancestral museum with baseline humans doing their thing.

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sumane12 t1_j1z4jtn wrote

>AIs will not be doing political governance though

If there's ever a job I feel humans are completely ill equipped to handle, it's political governance. In a world where humans are constantly being replaced by smarter AI and the people in charge are doing little to safeguard them, how long do you think it will be before an AI gets voted into office who will do something about it?

As I said, "ALL jobs" is a different planet.

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red75prime t1_j1z8d16 wrote

Who will allow voting on an amendment that will make it possible for AIs to actively participate in government?

> As I said, "ALL jobs" is a different planet.

Yeah, and that planet may not lie in our future.

Anyway, I think that the future of Earth (if human race is to survive) will be, in essence, a lush ancestral museum of humans doing their thing (culture, politics, art, fashion, philosophy, science), while limiting AIs to supporting/protective roles, while posthumans will do frontier exploration. Not everyone will be OK with brainwashing themselves into believing that VR is real, and AIs can't provide you with genuine exploration thrill if you are on Earth due to light speed limitations.

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sumane12 t1_j1zaf3i wrote

>Who will allow voting on an amendment that will make it possible for AIs to actively participate in government

Anyone who sees the benefits outweighing the costs. Ultimately someone will try it and if the ability to solve human problems is an intelligence requirement, why would anyone ignore an AI simply because it's not human.

>Yeah, and that planet may not lie in our future.

But that is what op is asking for...

Your idea of earth being a "lush ancestral museum" is very noble and beautiful, but what makes you think it will happen like that?

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red75prime t1_j1zdhax wrote

> what makes you think it will happen like that?

Cautiously optimistic elitism. AIs most likely will be controlled, or guided, or designed to desire, or whatever not by the rich, politicians, or the people, but by engineers, scientists, and philosophers, who wouldn't be willing to recklessly change the course of humanity, but will give us time to think and decide. And it could be a very long time.

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