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GayHitIer t1_j5uhqum wrote

The sooner the better, I still think Ray Kurzweil prediction is the most solid one, but who knows really.

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PitcherOTerrigen t1_j5uybak wrote

We should accelerate this, I would rather retrain my career sooner than later.

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Ashamed-Asparagus-93 t1_j5w7s9t wrote

To my knowledge he said AI will be as smart as a human by 2029. To me that means AGI by 2029, give or take a few years

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vivehelpme t1_j5zzkwj wrote

>he said AI will be as smart as a human by 2029.

He completely blew it because he didn't predict how stupid people we'd start breeding during early 2000s

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YobaiYamete t1_j61yoqp wrote

I mean, at the reate we are going we probably will have AGI by then. Many experts are already saying we very well might have full AGI within the decade, and that's with us not even seeing what Google is cooking

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Shelfrock77 OP t1_j5usoyy wrote

The trillionaires billionaires at the World Economic Forum know and tell us by 2030 we will own nothing and be happy 😏

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Sashinii t1_j5utitz wrote

"by 2030 we will own nothing and be happy"

You've said that quote a million times, but people will be able to manufacture what they want with nanofactories, so we will continue to own things, regardless of the dumb claims made by elitists from the World Economic Forum.

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Cr4zko t1_j5uw598 wrote

Are those guys from LessWrong still around? I think they were super into the whole 2030 agenda business.

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visarga t1_j5xz3ez wrote

Yeah, but after we use them we put them back in the system, so we own nothing. Like the Star Trek replicators - drink a tea, put the glass back and it swishes out.

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Shelfrock77 OP t1_j5uxs2h wrote

You are on coke if you think we will be able to manufacture everything in the universe in our little pods in the 2030s. We gon be able to make suitable spaceships and fockin energy weapons right ? Sure, it’ll do awesome stuff but plz stop acting like it will run smoother than you think this early, there will be limitations as humanity matures but then limitations will shrink once we start terraforming and sucking energy outta stars. The rich are going to kill most of us AND mindupload us. Idk what’s it going to take to believe that. We won’t have to kill many animals anymore if humans die too. We save space and eventually turn ourselves into fucking wires and the process of evolutions starts back over again. Just ask Keanu. “By 2030 you’ll own nothing and be happy” is metaphorical. You’ll own anything you want in the simulations we create.

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Sashinii t1_j5uyx2t wrote

I recommend therapy.

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Shelfrock77 OP t1_j5uyz9y wrote

AI therapy or human therapy ?

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Sashinii t1_j5v04jk wrote

Anime therapy. Watch something happy like Nichijou. Don't watch something dark like Neon Genesis Evangelion; I'm afraid that show wouldn't be good for someone like you who sees conspiracies in everything.

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visarga t1_j5xza2a wrote

20 therapeutic SD images and 20 chatGPT prompts per day, what the doctor ordered.

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leafhog t1_j5xsgbz wrote

I think that is a highly likely end game. It may have already happened.

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iNstein t1_j5w49rd wrote

How are so many people unable to understand such a simple statement. Do you own CDs? Do you own blurays/dvds? Do you use a music service like Spotify? A movie service like Netflix? Ever used an Uber? Ever not cooked at home and got a meal delivered? Eventually the service model will mean more and more stuff will be done as a service. No need for a car if a super cheap always available uber taxi is available. No need for a kitchen if every meal can be delivered cheaply and quickly. No need for a wardrobe full of clothes (or washer/dryer) if clothes can be delivered as you need them. This can become part of everything in your life including your accomodation. In other words, you will own nothing (because you don't need to) and you will be hapoy (because you have everything you need and it is cheap, reliable and flexible).

Oh no, now you are going to have to pretend that you never read this so you can continue on your bullshit crusade.

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InvertedSleeper t1_j5wru8z wrote

And what happens if a person's worldview goes against the dominant ideology of that time period? "Cancellation" in that proposed world means that a person could potentially lose everything the moment they step out of line.

Perhaps not immediately concerning because one would imagine that they won't be going against the grain, but leaving so much power in the hands of a vague unknown is extremely dangerous.

A potential argument against this could be that if you're kicked out of this system, you can just buy the physical items that you'd need to continue to live. But would that be feasible? Would companies continue to produce consumer-grade equipment if a great majority of people are happy to own nothing? And even if consumer-grade equipment existed, it would be far too expensive to suddenly have to buy everything.

After enough generations pass, it won't even matter if they can purchase this equipment because they'll be far too thoroughly dependent on this system.

Some points to consider at the very least.

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Jayco424 t1_j5xgymw wrote

>Cancellation" in that proposed world means that a person could potentially lose everything the moment they step out of line.

That is fucking terrifying and I never even thought of that!

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visarga t1_j5xze4f wrote

You will rent everything and be at the mercy of your providers.

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mutantbeings t1_j5xa4zh wrote

The trick is to look at whether having those things is profitable to those in power. For all of those things; they are profitable for power because power commodified them.

AGI isn't. Not in the hands of working class people.

That can only undercut the ability of the powerful to make money off of back-breaking labour of the working class.

Unless the powerful can commodify it, don't expect it to be accessible.

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