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d00m_sayer t1_j3ch1rf wrote

Reply to comment by zendonium in Now that’s pretty significant! (By Anthropic) by MajorUnderstanding2

What is interesting is that it can reason, which defies the widely held idea in this subreddit that AIs are just regurgitating information.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j3clp3v wrote

Well that's sort of what 'reasoning' is, right? Using one's internal language system and reference library to discourse with someone else's (compatible, mutually shared) language system and reference library?

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IonizingKoala t1_j3d9uet wrote

Language is a way of knowing, but it's not the only one. Reason, emotion, and sense perception are also ways of knowing.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j3dbgqc wrote

That's true I suppose... but I see those things, 'reason, emotion and sense perception', as fundamentally arising from language, not necessarily from intelligence (with the possible exception of sense perception). Because 'intelligence' alone doesn't give a being any need to communicate, and all those evolved skills like reason and emotion are communicative in nature.

Personally I think Descartes was dead wrong when he had that special little thought; 'I think therefore I am'; that's not sound logic, it's a silly tautology. Intelligence isn't what creates language... *language* is what gives *intelligence* a reason to evolve in the first place. Intelligence doesn't arise in singular isolation - what would be the point of having it?

Evolutionary intelligence is more like the Ubuntu philosophy, '*We* think, therefore *we are*' - that's a much more realistic way of thinking of the nature of mind, in my humble opinion.

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Slapbox t1_j3d11if wrote

Reason requires some understanding, which ChatGPT lacks entirely.

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stucjei t1_j3cxv8k wrote

It looks like it can reason, but from my observations, often when its reasoning fails and is pressed for it, it is incapable of reasoning further or correcting itself, suggesting a response that is learned yet not truly reasoned.

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overlordpotatoe t1_j3dlbnv wrote

It wasn't really very good reasoning, though. The adoptive father idea is the only one that sort of makes sense.

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maskedpaki t1_j3cxqnh wrote

to be fair there are more possibilities than what anthropic gave

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he could have 2 gay fathers

he could have one adoptive one biological father.

the best answer is probably the mother if we are sticking to strict definitions of what father and mother mean

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but yh nonetheless I am very impressed by this ai. seems more logical and cleaner than chatgpt!!

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