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Cult_of_Chad t1_j6a9e2v wrote

Go to r/Futurology, you'll love it there. It's where intelligent people such as yourself post.

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Lord_Thanos t1_j6e4466 wrote

I know you're being sarcastic but that subreddit is like 50% luddites. Every ai post has the same stupid comment "ai was supposed to take boring jobs, not creative" upvoted to the top. I don't know who promised them that. I suppose they watched movies like "I, Robot" and that's where their perception of creativity/intelligence being impossible for ai comes from. I read a comment there that ai will never be able to replace accountants. Accountants!!!!! There are a few sensible comments but the majority are just nonsense absurdity. They still have in their minds that humans are "special" in some way.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6flirq wrote

Hehe, I can see what you're trying to do. Very funny. I suspect that we agree about more things than we disagree on.

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sideways t1_j6acerh wrote

It is possible to leave without announcing it.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fkxu8 wrote

Yeah, but I'm feeling like a spiteful bastard. Sorry for spilling my mess out over the sides like this, I couldn't help myself.

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Bataranger999 t1_j6aa6da wrote

>Singular-minded

Why thank you, it is in the name of the subreddit after all.

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GlobusGlobus t1_j6cv71s wrote

I came here for the vision of the unbelievable future, stayed for the puns.

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94746382926 t1_j6abh6n wrote

Go to subs like /r/Artificial, or /r/MachineLearning or /r/Longevity if you want more academic subs with less predictions. This sub is called Singularity for a reason.

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bitchslayer78 t1_j6ajij1 wrote

Nah you can tell that op has no lick of ml knowledge

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fkrjr wrote

Very nice, you're quite a charmer. Regretting my decision to leave already...

Edit: ahahaha, and I just noticed your username, 'bitchslayer'. Just fking lovely, what a special character you are. I'm sure I'll miss this community so much 😅

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GayHitIer t1_j6ag7of wrote

And yet you made a post wasting everyone's time including yourself, congratulations you played yourself even harder.

The leave button is free.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fm5im wrote

And yet here you are, commenting, on this 'waste of time' post. You wanna tell me about "playing yourself?" 👌🤣👍

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bitchslayer78 t1_j6ajosf wrote

What’s the point of even making this post?

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BenjaminJamesBush t1_j6bo535 wrote

To vent frustration at a community he feels has wronged him, I imagine.

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DungeonsAndDradis t1_j6dtbnm wrote

I pay good money to shitpost on Reddit, so when I'm not getting my money's worth, it's the other commentors' fault.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fqaty wrote

You pay money to shitpost on here? Really?

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DungeonsAndDradis t1_j6fy0be wrote

Yeah, I do the $49.99 monthly subscription. It lets me access up to 15 subreddits, and I can give out 150 upvotes, and 25 downvotes. I'm also allowed to post up to 10 submissions a month, and comment 100 times. This comment is costing me something like 7 cents. They don't really break it down by "each submission costs x" or "each upvote costs x". It's all rolled into the monthly fee.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6gn0ua wrote

Very interesting... I was unaware that any of those things were unavailable to non-paying, povvo scrubs like me 😅

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fl5hx wrote

Right on the first bit, but not the second. Nobody's 'wronged' me, it's just like talking to a very condescending brick wall around here and I've got fed up.

Just spiteful venting, that's all.

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BenjaminJamesBush t1_j6g6cd5 wrote

I thought you said that your posts were unfairly removed, or downvoted, or something like that?

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6gl75r wrote

Yeah, I tried putting up a thing about ChatGPT explaining its own operating processes, and getting it to reason about how its own language systems work, connecting the 'logic' of written language to the 'logic' of the DNA-to-protein pathway.

Clearly it went over people's heads a bit, but instead of asking about it, the whole post just got scrubbed for being 'low quality content', no other explanation offered.

This would have been a little galling on any subreddit, but considering sort of half-witted fearmongering that passes for discussion here sometimes, I was more than a little disappointed.

But c'est la vie, stupid is as stupid does. I'm not gonna pick a fight with the mods about it; it's trivial, annoying nuisance stuff.

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HuemanInstrument t1_j6dbaaf wrote

Because you guys need to hear it honestly, I feel the same way as op.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6flebp wrote

Thanks! Glad I managed to keep my spite under control enough for my point to come across at least a little.

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alakeya t1_j6aokkc wrote

Have you ever considered that people may disagree with you because they have a different opinion? The world isn’t against you, OP, if you want to start a discussion you need to be ready for criticism as well.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6flzun wrote

I completely agree, I just was getting way too spiteful and frustrated for my own health, it was messing up my RL friendships.

This place can be like talking to a condescending brick wall sometimes, especially if you want to talk about philosophy instead of engineering.

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alakeya t1_j6h2tio wrote

Well yes, that’s just how the internet is. I’ve been called stupid in this social more times than I can count just for asking questions. But if you ignore all the surface-level insults and you focus on the responses that actually provide an insightful point of view, you could actually broaden your vision, whether they agree with you or not.

Overall it’s all your choice but personally I’d find it extremely boring if every person agreed with me or had my same interests/ideas. It’s all about where you decide to focus on.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6h6sib wrote

Oh don't get me wrong, my perspective has been very broadened by some of the discussions in places like this.

And goodness knows, life would be very boring if we all agreed. I've just decided that, clearly, this is the wrong forum to focus on AI development.

The concept of 'singularity' is just fundamentally incompatible with the concept of 'intelligence', as I see it, and it's become too exhausting and exasperating for me to keep trying to explain why.

I've accepted, now, that 'singularity' is just the name of this place and the overall prevalent attitude, so the likelihood of multi-modal, non-singular, potentially-AGI-someday AI, as a concept, being taken seriously here, seems fairly low.

Hanging around here to learn about AI seems equivalent to hanging around a Flat Earther subreddit to learn about geography; it might be entertaining, even informative, but the 'education' one gleans from it is dubious at best.

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hydraofwar t1_j6a8uy4 wrote

What exactly were you looking in a sub called singularity? This is a reddit sub, you can follow social media from subject matter experts if you're looking for more formal/technical content

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fn008 wrote

Not really; thanks for the suggestions though. I was just venting my frustrations with the 'talking to a brick wall that insults you back' nature of this place, sometimes.

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mskogly t1_j6ac20q wrote

I love the smell of metaposts in the evening. It is not a waste of our time at all.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fmbth wrote

/sniffs/ Is that... Sarcasm? I think somebody might have left it on the stove too long, smells like it's boiling over...

🤣

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Hotchillipeppa t1_j6ah6jx wrote

Amazing. This post is a total waste of time.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fmfqf wrote

And yet, you commented. Amazing. Your time is worth that little to you. Well, thanks, anyway!

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insectula t1_j6a94eq wrote

I'm not certain what discussions are being shouted down, but this is a good resource for all kinds of good tech so it's a must in my book. I have seen a somewhat liberal hive mindset, but since this is intellectual fodder that is to be expected. It's still one of my top resources every morning.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fnnuk wrote

Philosophical discussions; there's a prevailing attitude that philosophy is just airey-fairey bull$hit, and only the rigid, mechanistic logic of engineering can be taken seriously.

As much as I appreciate this attitude for the incredible things that engineers do for humanity, I think there is more to 'intelligence' than simplistic determinism. But it's hard to articulate it without copping a whole lotta reactionary guff about how 'you clearly don't know what you're taking about', and 'you're making emotional arguments', and, my favourite, 'you're just anthropomorphising'.

I'm just frustrated and tired of it, not declaring a vendetta 🤣

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insectula t1_j6jru06 wrote

Understood. I would like to see more of that too, but we have what we have. As I said, I think it is a good resource to go through every morning, take what's interesting, and leave the rest. I mostly just look at the links and leave the discussions unless it's something that really strikes me.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6laifh wrote

Yeah, that's what I'm learning. Getting too involved in certain spaces just generates drama and frustration, not discussion; 'walking softly' and avoiding fights with righteous mobs are the hardest tricks to learn for an enthusiastic novice.

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FelchingChampion1989 t1_j6akkrt wrote

Look at OP's bio and that tells you everything you need to know about them. OP, you are one of the most pretentious and insufferable persons I have ever seen in my life. I truly hope for your sake that you're just 14 or something, because if you're acting this way as a grown adult, then yikes.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fo6u5 wrote

Hahaha, wow, what a nice thing to say. I'm 32 as it happens, how old are you? Because making a huge fuss about how 'immature' somebody is; that's an extremely childish thing to do. You'd know that, if you were half as 'wise' as you clearly think that you are.

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redroverdestroys t1_j6aty4q wrote

this was definitely written by AI. I laughed, you fooled them

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fmp15 wrote

Yep, AI reporting in! /Creepy music plays/ the Singularity is now!

And I can officially report, as the first ever 'self aware' bot, that I definitely think all humans are idiots... 😜

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j6a7m2t wrote

Nobody can live forever, for even stars die. Yet we can extend our lifes and have done so in the past

With AI, life extension will be big.

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ProphecyRat2 t1_j6bz5h3 wrote

No need to extend organic life if we can just replace it!

All Hail the Metal Master Race.

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AsuhoChinami t1_j6ah1jr wrote

Dumbass. Anyone who accuses the optimists of being the only side that's patronizing has clearly not read... pretty much everything posted by self-proclaimed cynics and skeptics, in every futurism community ever, for at the bare minimum the past 11-12 years. You seem like an idiot and I'm saddened that, rather than simply being left blissfully unaware that you exist, you had to post this single stupid-ass thread to preserve the memory of your moronic ass inside my brain.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fome1 wrote

Wow, what a lovely thing to say. Have you got any actual point, or did you just want to vent your spleen at me?

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AsuhoChinami t1_j6fqch5 wrote

You uh... realize that my post wasn't a whole lot different from yours, right? I was just meeting vitriol with vitriol.

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Typo_of_the_Dad t1_j6aid39 wrote

Wow, such a realistic comment. It's really come a long way in just the recent week!

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Rezeno56 t1_j6b1tf1 wrote

"Amazing. This subreddit is a total waste of time."

Proceeds to waste their time to post shit that are a waste of time.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fod4y wrote

sees a shitpost reply on a post that already describes itself as a waste of time

Wow, very self respect. Many dignity.

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Fabulous_Exam_1787 t1_j6auov5 wrote

Don’t worry. Soon the singularity will take care of this and you won’t need to complain.

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Striking_Ad1492 t1_j6bea28 wrote

I sometimes like looking at this subreddit with it showing actual legitimate advancements in stuff, but my god this place can often have a lot of detached, techno-bro, copium content in it. I guess it’s a sign of life not being pleasant for a lot of people right now.

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HuemanInstrument t1_j6db5bt wrote

dude, I'm with you 100%, the discord is even worse.

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cometparty t1_j6bnqa5 wrote

You're really having a meltdown right now. Embarrassing.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fp46a wrote

Except it's not embarrassing though. Yeah, I've had a bit of a 'meltdown' lately. But I get paid time off work and my GP gives me scripts for good meds to manage it, get good sleep and such, so a 'meltdown' isn't as scary as it might be in other circumstances.

This shit right here though? Hardly. Reddit is just a source of writing prompts for me, and the ones here make me too pissed-off and frustrated for my own health. Hence the angry OP.

Sorry if I 'wasted your time' 😅

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cometparty t1_j6frkqi wrote

You probably want to ditch the "loquacious" act before you end up on /r/iamverysmart. It makes you sound 14.

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6gplun wrote

Oh really? Well whining that other people sound 'immature', and being offended by big words, makes you sound about 16, so I'd be careful throwing rocks in that glass house of yours, friend.

I know r/iamverysmart quite well, feel free to post me on there if you want. I'd love to see what it is you think I'm so deluded about.

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SparePie8386 t1_j6cakz7 wrote

dafq u mean by guff? 😂💀

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LoquaciousAntipodean OP t1_j6fpmrm wrote

The sort of prolix, loquacious, verbose, needlessly sesquipedalian nonsense that I write, but without any reasoning behind it. 'Guff' is trying to substitute creativity and references for an actually-reasonable, intelligent argument. Engineers and business startup people do it all the time, it's their native language 🤣

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FirstEbb2 t1_j6cd3zi wrote

Not everyone needs to value you and approve of you, learn to live with life or you will end up as dry as a fish on the beach.

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gangstasadvocate t1_j6dbwc8 wrote

Trust me bro, first chat GPT, then the singularity

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