Anonymous-USA t1_j9n7tx8 wrote on February 23, 2023 at 4:20 AM

If you want a serious answer, here:

We know the speed of light is constant. We know the luminosity of certain stellar masses is constant (specifically type 1A supernova). Since light intensity decreases proportionally to the square of the distance, we can calculate exactly how far away they are. And since we know both how far away they are and the speed of light, we know how long ago that light left that type 1A supernova. And guess what, it’s a lot longer than 6,000 years ago.

And before you hand wave and say “well maybe those things aren’t constant”, that would disagree with Einstein’s field equations which are among the most robust scientific theories in history — every test has proven them. Every one. And any hand waving that contradicts that contradicts every experimental observation and does so without any evidentiary support.

So it’s not worth delving into your conclusions based upon a provably incorrect assumption of the age of the universe. You’re asking “let’s assume 2+2=3”. It’s a non-starter.

That’s my serious answer. Is it shallow?

p.s. I’m disappointed you deleted your post (out of frustration perhaps) without reading any well argued rebuttals. I hope you think about this response before dismissing it.

DrMilzie OP t1_j9n95z5 wrote on February 23, 2023 at 4:32 AM

No, not shallow, but it is heavy with emotion and thus bias. I agree with you, I don't believe a god, or the God, created light waves in transit of an event that never happened, such as a type 1a supernova, I think the star truly did explode. The problem is you are not answering my specific question

Anonymous-USA t1_j9n9t78 wrote on February 23, 2023 at 4:38 AM

I am answering it well. I actually would prefer you learn. You are asking a question based on a provably wrong assumption. It’s non-sensical. A hypothetical at best.

I’m not being emotional about it. I am well aware how comforting faith can be and would never argue against someone’s faith. But if you say the sky is pink, I can argue that a spectrometer pointed at the sky will tell you otherwise. The sky isn’t pink and the earth is much older than 3.5B years (the earliest dated rock samples on the Earth’s surface) and the universe is older than 13.7B years (the farthest/oldest type 1A supernova detected).

So any statement asking “if we assume A, can B be true” is no, not when A cannot be true. This is a valid answer.

hatersaurusrex t1_j9nao9w wrote on February 23, 2023 at 4:46 AM

You're not being emotional at all. Projection is a hell of a drug.