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BlueMonkOne t1_iyeg7u9 wrote

What race? China is the 3rd country to have a space station.

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404_Gordon_Not_Found t1_iyegzmr wrote

Just because they started 3rd does not mean they are locked in the 3rd place.

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spaetzelspiff t1_iyev538 wrote

This moronic tortoise and hare-ing of China; still believing China is the same China as it was in 1996 is what will cost America its competitiveness in space (and elsewhere).

There is clearly a space race between the east and west, regardless of whether either side acknowledges the other.

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TK-741 t1_iyf2vbx wrote

China has a lot of room to keep growing, too.

The US on the other hand is painting itself into a corner. They have normalized a lifestyle that won’t be sustainable for America and Americans to maintain.

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BlueMonkOne t1_iyej7tf wrote

They are for space stations above Earth.

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404_Gordon_Not_Found t1_iyem7hz wrote

Sure, but counting space power by order of things isn't really indicative of current situations. I wouldn't call Russia the 2nd space power rn even if they sent the MIR into space before China.

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windmill-tilting t1_iyf2qe6 wrote

The ISS was launched 20+ years ago. Di the technogical advances even 3xist then? Also "international" means operating g3oups. I guess BRA minus C were not interested?

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KiwieeiwiK t1_iyfbh9o wrote

>The ISS was launched 20+ years ago. Di the technogical advances even 3xist then?

No, but that's their point. It isn't "China's space station is better because China is better", it's "China's station is better because it's newer"

It's not a criticism of the US or Russia or the ISS project as a whole. Newer things are just better.

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HildemarTendler t1_iyf6a6f wrote

But what is the race? What are we racing towards? Is this just a "who can spend the most" race? Are we racing to colonise the moon? Get someone to Mars? What's the end game?

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KiwieeiwiK t1_iyfby2z wrote

There was no end game to the first space race, the idea of humans on the moon being the finishing line came much later, and mostly after the US had done it and the USSR had failed to. The space race began in 1955, before anyone had even got anything into space, the idea that "we are going to walk on the moon before you" was some kind of goal of the US is absurd.

The first real target of the space race was to get a satellite into orbit.

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horsemagicians t1_iyfbiva wrote

There’s always competition whether you want to admit it or not. US officials have so why don’t you?

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Mak_2022 t1_iyf9rh8 wrote

To the West, its always a race; a me against you thing; the Chinese could simply be learning from the west an doing their thing and not necessarily trying to compete

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