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coronavirusrex69 t1_j7vos91 wrote

Reply to comment by skaterrj in How the NFL avoids paying disabled players — with the union’s help by washingtonpost

i guess we're not disagreeing then we're just talking in circles on something we agree about.

>You don't have sympathy for them, okay, fine. Does that mean they should get screwed by the NFL plan that they thought provided them coverage? No, of course not.

i guess i just don't see it as getting screwed because they are participating in the system and they know how the system works. if i go to a car dealership and the guy blows a bunch of fluff up my ass and i overpay, did i get screwed? or did i participate in an activity that is designed to exploit me for my resources?

if i go play roulette and put all of my life savings on 00 and it hits any other number, did I get screwed? if i go kick a venomous snake and get bit, screwed? if i go drink and drive and get pulled over, did i get screwed?

did anyone put a gun to these guys heads and force them to playing the NFL? because maybe i'm missing that part.

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skaterrj t1_j7vqss3 wrote

None of those examples you gave compare to paying for health insurance and believing you are covered, then discovering it's useless. This one is closest:

> i guess i just don't see it as getting screwed because they are participating in the system and they know how the system works. if i go to a car dealership and the guy blows a bunch of fluff up my ass and i overpay, did i get screwed? or did i participate in an activity that is designed to exploit me for my resources?

If your employer had you paying into a health care plan then you later discovered it was smoke and mirrors, you would be screwed, yes. How in the world would that be your fault?

You're blaming the victims.

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coronavirusrex69 t1_j7vt0ln wrote

>believing you are covered, then discovering it's useless.

i can believe that i'm a snake whisperer. it doesn't mean it's true.

>If your employer had you paying into a health care plan then you later discovered it was smoke and mirrors, you would be screwed, yes. How in the world would that be your fault?

my brother in christ, I do pay into my employers health care plan and it is smoke and mirrors. this isn't me being screwed or anything. this is me living in America where health insurance is a profit driven business. Also, my employer health care plan doesn't cover me once I'm no longer employed by them.

there are no victims. this is the system that we live by in the US. i'm not sure if you're here or what, but we aren't the victims. we vote for the people who design these laws. there were major presidential candidates (well, one) that ran on universal healthcare, and the US overwhelmingly voted for the guy who specifically said he would VETO any universal healthcare bill. this is the system, by design, not a surprise.

you're acting like you see an advertisement that says "Best pizza on the planet!" and feel screwed when it's, shockingly, not the best pizza you have ever tasted. saying stuff like your health matters to us and blah blah is marketing - ie smoke and mirrors, and yes, that is how the US health system is run... if you believe everything you read in an advertisement, you are going to have a bad time here.

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