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hdidnthappen t1_is9kmij wrote

the one thing that she could not outrun

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McNinjagator t1_is9w0dh wrote

How is the government going to help? They only make things worse.

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XG2L5TM3WK t1_is9wtu5 wrote

That is NOT the government's job

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caboose391 t1_is9y7x3 wrote

Properly administered and funded public mental health programs are the way forward for an enlightened society. Mental health is health.

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AdequateSteakAlister t1_is9zkp5 wrote

Wow the Boomers get up early to blanketly scream "Don't Tread On Me" at a Brit... Mental Health is absolutely a governmental responsibility at least in part, because it is imperative to a healthy society. Also nobody gives money to it because unhealthy people (and, I suspect, bots as most of these derisive comments must be from) scream "I don't need no counsl'r tellin me what to do".

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dryadsoraka t1_is9zn3h wrote

Agreee, mental illness is what is causing humanity to collapse right now.

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JammJamm2016 t1_isa3ku3 wrote

Social media and lack of purpose. So many today have no hopes for the future. My advice to anyone feeling anxious or depressed would be a complete severing of social media.

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snakeyfish t1_isa5nbq wrote

The government will not do anything

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banmeyoubitch t1_isa5upg wrote

Lol the UK government at the moment is not planning to adequately provide heat during the coming winter, I doubt they're going to do anything for this issue at all.

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Smitty_The_One t1_isa8d5n wrote

Replying to AdequateSteakAlister (#101,365)

When you say “governmental responsibility” what you’re actually saying is that it should be the responsibility of all working citizens to fund. Your mental health is not an expense that should be forced on me, sorry. Do what you need to do for yourself, but keep your hands out of my pockets in the process unless it’s something universal like roads. Just because I’m passionate about Fraggle Rock doesn’t mean I should be able to EFT money out of your account to pay for it so I can watch it. It’s just the concept… you’re making everyone pay for something that not everyone needs and you’re wondering why they’d be upset about that? When you pay taxes yourself one day I’m sure you’ll understand. Guess this comment makes me a Boomer, even though I’m under 40.

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AgingChris t1_isabarj wrote

Replying to Smitty_The_One (#101,757)

>you’re making everyone pay for something that not everyone needs and you’re wondering why they’d be upset about that?

I feel this is a silly argument, ive personally never needed the fire brigade yet I don't whinge about paying taxes to support it. While I get what your saying to a degree we cannot cherry pick what our taxes go towards.

Also just because you don't need it now does not mean you won't need it later, like me and the fire brigade for example

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spaceocean99 t1_isac33v wrote

Replying to caboose391 (#101,297)

Throw medical on there as well. The guess what? Instead of paying 40% taxes, you pay 50-60% taxes. Good luck affording housing on that pay.

There are so many issues to resolve and each has a cascading effect.

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bakerzdosen t1_isah2gl wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#102,127)

Sure. If that’s what’s causing you stress, get rid of it.

Everything affects each person differently.

But the need to fill air time in a 24 hour a day channel has caused news channels to overly sensationalize MANY stories, and the need to be “first” to report things has often outweighed the need for accuracy. And those two things combined causes many needless stress in their lives.

If you’re not one of those, feel free to continue to enjoy the theatrics of cable news.

There are numerous sources of “news” out there. I’d just recommend being selective about your sources.

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Smitty_The_One t1_isaketo wrote

Replying to AgingChris (#101,912)

I pay for my own health insurance. If I ever need medical services, I’ll go get them, I don’t need other taxpayers to fund that. Fire brigades are funded by property taxes… people that don’t own property in my county aren’t forced to help pay for my possible fire needs.

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KPC51 t1_isalodh wrote

Replying to spaceocean99 (#101,945)

> There are so many issues to resolve. Better not work on any of them!

Cmon, let's improve the healthcare system and the cost of housing. Why complain about one potential area of improvement just because it doesn't fix every issue?

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ok-NOTok t1_isammpy wrote

Replying to SnapcasterWizard (#102,421)

That’s good to hear. I’m American and was thinking there’s no way in hell we could truly be the home of the worst healthcare system on Earth with that long of a wait lol.

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DarehMeyod t1_isamszr wrote

Replying to spaceocean99 (#101,945)

The us government already spends far more per capita on healthcare than the high income countries with universal healthcare. If our government ever gets their heads out of their asses and decides to join the rest of the modern world then theoretically taxes could decrease and remove the need to pay for private insurance.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health-expenditure-by-country/

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ColgateSensifoam t1_isanp0g wrote

Replying to ok-NOTok (#102,395)

Tory governments keep cutting funding

In England, there's the Right to Choose, which means you can go to a private provider on the NHS's dime, but that doesn't apply outside of England

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-little-dorrit- t1_isanrmh wrote

Replying to ok-NOTok (#102,395)

I’m not qualified to say, but here is a little more info:

https://www.bigissue.com/life/health/adhd-nhs-diagnosis-waiting-times-crisis/

I started looking into it as a friend told me this had happened to him. To my shame I didn’t believe it could be true at first (although I’m currently on an NHS referral waiting list myself and it’s 6 months). I believe this would vary quite considerably with region and healthcare authority though.

NHS is suffering right now due to chronic underfunding, piecemeal privatisation and increasing costs of care, and long waiting lists are a symptom of all of that. Very sad. NHS standard of care is excellent in general, but performs poorly on waiting times. I’d take it over private healthcare any day though.

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Smitty_The_One t1_isarhea wrote

Replying to ColgateSensifoam (#102,613)

I’m fine with limited government. Busting monopolies and handling roads and shit like that. I just do not agree that the government is the answer to every problem. The government cannot do ANYTHING efficiently. It’s like making a donation to the Red Cross thru some third party company that keeps 95% of the profit. The government will overspend and mismanage funds for every project it is involved in… if a private company can accomplish something without the government being involved, then absolutely the government doesn’t need to be involved. When their budgets are in the billions they stop caring about how they spend millions, and we end up footing the bill. Y’all wanna pass a bill for every issue that you think needs to be “solved”, and that’s just a naive way of thinking about things if you understand how the government works.

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-little-dorrit- t1_isb06hk wrote

Replying to ColgateSensifoam (#102,503)

That’s handy, thanks. I’ll pass it on to my ADHD friend who brought this up to me in the first place. The Big Issue article I cited above is from 2021, so I guess it is now out of date for England at least.

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JamesXX t1_isb1vjf wrote

Im ok with government helping to fund independent mental health programs. But, man, it feels a little scary to have the government themselves with their fingers in peoples mental health.

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DudeBreu t1_isb2390 wrote

Yes it's the government's problem. Always....

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SneakAttoke t1_isb71gb wrote

The government never solves anything. It’s just a lame excuse for people to shill their problems on.

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aioncan t1_isb9m85 wrote

Replying to Aujax92 (#102,258)

Sure but probably less common. Since people back then actually participated in their small community. Did things together, talked, and made sure their neighbors were ok.

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PM_ME_UR_FROST_TROLL t1_isb9z1u wrote

Replying to JammJamm2016 (#101,522)

I deleted nearly all of my social media and some friends reached out and asked if I was okay because it was weird to disappear. I said having social media is making me not okay, but you have my number. I’ve been so much better (in addition to therapy and meds).

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Aujax92 t1_isbci93 wrote

Replying to aioncan (#103,526)

Things were just kept quiet or people just thought others were crazy, stories of witches, werewolves, vampires, etc probably all come stories of the mentally ill.

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samdc1985 t1_isbpbn0 wrote

As long as your part of the entertainment you’ll be taken care of

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ColgateSensifoam t1_isbtn06 wrote

Replying to Smitty_The_One (#102,642)

So you don't consider public health something that the government should have a hand in? Despite it being one of the largest contributors to GDP?

We've shown time and time again that privatisation leads to more loss than nationalisation.

I'm in favour of more regulation, including regulatory oversight of government to prevent the corruption that you have such an issue with

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Smitty_The_One t1_isbz8r1 wrote

Replying to ColgateSensifoam (#104,585)

The problem is more inefficiency and idiocy than it is corruption. Laws don’t make the government understand business or industry or do things in an efficient manner. They paid $300 million to design a fucking website (healthcare.gov) which was buggy and didn’t do what it was supposed to do for most of the first year it was live. If that contract had gone to someone with actual experience building such a website, that cost would’ve been much lower and the functionality would’ve been much better. It’s still a shitshow that functions on the level of Geocities. Apply that efficiency and expertise to any problem, and that’s what you’re getting with the government handling it.

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Smitty_The_One t1_isc3uvy wrote

Replying to ColgateSensifoam (#104,966)

What law is going to stop the decision maker from giving a high dollar contract to his unqualified buddy? He’s the decision maker for a reason. The buddy doesn’t have to pay him directly as a kickback, they can offer benefits or disguise shit thru shell corporations etc. Adding more people to the government payroll isn’t going to stop that… replacing the current ones with competent/honorable people might, but good fucking luck with that. The only option is to make it so the only things the government is involved in are things that they MUST be involved in, leave the other shit to the market to handle. It will. If someone is gouging people for a service then someone else will come along and undercut them to get the business. That model works a lot better than the government stealing a bunch of money from its citizens and then blindly shelling it out to buddies of the decision makers. PPP loans are no different if you want a more recent example. We could form committees to make these kinds of decisions but look at the Supreme Court… the most “honorable” group in the land is a fucking shit show. Government is not the answer here.

Nobody has shown “time and again” that privatization leads to more issues by the way… that statement is false. Show me 3 examples where the government handled something better than a private company could. I literally don’t think you can find one example in the US.

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ColgateSensifoam t1_isc4x1u wrote

Replying to Smitty_The_One (#105,080)

Anticorruption and proper procurement laws?

Again, your issues are with the system your country uses, and the corruption that leads to

Democratically elected individuals, rather than parties, are a much better way of handling things. Likewise, having public officials records open to public scrutiny has a huge part in preventing these backroom deals from happening

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Smitty_The_One t1_isc5crz wrote

Replying to ColgateSensifoam (#105,155)

Whose gonna pass the anti corruption laws by the way? The corrupt congress we have who are lining their pockets with the current system? We can’t even pass term limits for these idiots… if you think they’re going to vote against their personal best interests then you’re wrong. If you’re not speaking about the USA in this argument then it’s probably apples to oranges.

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AdequateSteakAlister t1_isetc3a wrote

Replying to Smitty_The_One (#105,080)

Do yer own ressrrch... You can't find "the Market works" for the many literally anywhere. Nursing homes, jails, hospitals all killed people more when privatized. There's your three. Got any more brilliance or are you just sporting angry. Probably just a bot really. Russians love to get the world fighting. Look at his history. Def a bot.

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