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_CurseTheseMetalHnds t1_iubohm4 wrote

>Mundell, who was the first openly gay Conservative cabinet minister, also gave an interview to Qatar’s state-run agency this year in which he criticised “baseless” media coverage about a report into Qatar’s record on worker rights

Being openly gay and taking bribes from a country that arrests gay people is shocking. Also disappointed to see Chris Bryant named there. I expect it from Tories but a labour MP, especially one as solid as Bryant is, should be above this.

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Psychedaddy t1_iuccr8w wrote

Well, surprise surprise. When people said gay people are also human, they meant it.

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Warmso24 t1_iubr100 wrote

Maybe I’m just cynical but I’ve come to the conclusion that most politicians are all the same. They say different things but it’s all just means to an end for many of them. Don’t get me wrong, there are good politicians out there. I’ve just become so jaded that I find it hard to trust any of their motives.

Edit: spelling

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_CurseTheseMetalHnds t1_iubrwf6 wrote

I don't really buy the "they're all the same" chat when we have one side voting to ban fracking and one voting to allow it, one pushing for workers rights and one demonising unions, one pushing for green energy and one banning on shore wind, one calling for a windfall tax on energy companies and another crashing the economy via tax cuts for the rich etc. A very quick look at the two main parties makes it obvious they're not the same. This article being full of conservative MPs who did propaganda work for Qatar and one labour MP who took a single trip and now outwards admits he was wrong to do so also shows that. Christ, the divide by party on this bill about creating buffer zones around abortion clinics to see top protestors harassing people on the way in says it all.

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belizeanheat t1_iud7fue wrote

I think despite all that you can still make the case that most of them are going to do whatever is best for their careers and wealth

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Mr_Happy_80 t1_iucajpf wrote

The Tories can't decide what their stance is on fracking, having U turned 5 times in the last 6 months.

A windfall tax isn't a tax on energy companies, it is another tax on working people that hits the poorest the hardest. It is still our money. We don't need windfall taxes, we need a regulator that does something and isn't run by someone's friend from public school.

We have a shadow health minister pushing for more NHS privatisation as he's in the pocket of insurance companies, and other MPs in the pocket of foreign owned water companies.

They're all the same. Keith is another Blairite Tory in a red tie.

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_CurseTheseMetalHnds t1_iudbkb8 wrote

> The Tories can't decide what their stance is on fracking, having U turned 5 times in the last 6 months.

Right, and we know what Labour's stance is.

>Keith

Wow you really slagged him there, dunno how he'll recover. Not being as left as would be desirable isn't the same as being indistinguishable from the Tories for fucks sake.

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dazedandconfused492 t1_iucig00 wrote

People don't want to accept this because it makes things feel hopeless. But it's still the truth. Britain has a 2 party system, and neither of them are working in the interest of the people.

The fact that the leader of the LABOUR Party isn't in full support of strikes for people in vital services to receive decent pay should be the clue.

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thelovelykyle t1_iucg2xc wrote

Hurr Durr! Dey all da same...

I know the voting record is opposite each other.

But Hurr Durr! Keef!

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Mr_Happy_80 t1_iuchg4y wrote

Wake up, mate. Labour isn't the party of the left any more. Keith even stood up at the party conference and said Labour is back in the centre. It should be no where near it.

The voting record isn't opposite each other, as Labour MPs have some of the worst attendance. Not attending a vote is agreeing with the bill that succeeds. All turning up to vote against Austerity bills is voter pandering. For every Zarah Sultana there are 5 red tie Tories.

In power they're not in a rush to reverse anything. Privatised industry is still privatised and will remain so. A windfall tax is just another tax on us. Tell me I'm wrong.

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thelovelykyle t1_iuchjtm wrote

Hurr Durr.

I'd rather have Sunak. Or hand Johnson massive majorities.

Hurr Durr!

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Mr_Happy_80 t1_iuchqfb wrote

Uncle Rupert's lie machine has got you good.

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thelovelykyle t1_iuchrmh wrote

Hurr Durr! KEEEEEEEEF!

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Mr_Happy_80 t1_iucimp1 wrote

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thelovelykyle t1_iuciul6 wrote

Girl. I am not even reading your replies. You are part of the Left Wing supporters of Conservative government.

Your thoughts, you even, have zero value to me. There are plenty more people worthy of my effort. Not a chance I check out a video of yours. That time can be spent on something worthwhile.

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TheUnweeber t1_iucppwb wrote

Remember they term 'divide and conquer'?

Your nation is divided, and you're helping to cause that - but you can't even see the conquerors.

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thelovelykyle t1_iucpy1o wrote

Pal. I just mocked the person sowing the division.

I bet you aren't replying to them with the same.

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TheUnweeber t1_iucshy8 wrote

I'm sure that the mockery was incredibly helpful in resolving the division.

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thelovelykyle t1_iuctgeg wrote

I cannot imagine they were prepared to find common ground. Regardless.

My efforts are better spent mocking them.

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Semper_nemo13 t1_iuc70vt wrote

Bryant is barely Labour and should and will lose to Plaid next election.

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Welshguy78 t1_iuck93c wrote

I'm from the Rhondda and there is next to no chance of Plaid defeating him in the next GE sadly. Its baffling as he genuinely seems to hate Welsh people (see his reaction to Owain Glwyndr day) and has done nothing for the Rhondda. It's one of the safest seats in the House and all he's concerned with is furthering his political position (see his bid to become Speaker). He lucked into a safe seat and is now just going thru the motions, waiting for his 'big break!'

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Semper_nemo13 t1_iudc7zu wrote

I mean you did have Plaid in the Senedd for ages, and now have more Welsh Speakers with the redrawn lines. Everyone I have met from the Rhondda loathes him.

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Welshguy78 t1_iudoqwt wrote

People seem more willing to vote for Plaid for the Welsh Government elections. But when it comes to General Elections, they always go Labour. Everyone hates him, but people just vote red out of habit. He could damn and flood the entire bloody valley and he'd probably get get a ten thousand majority.

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tlst9999 t1_iue0bmr wrote

Premise 1: I'm gay Premise 2: Qatar didn't arrest me

Conclusion: Qatar doesn't arrest gay people.

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