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lawlesswallace75 t1_ixnqfbk wrote

Any suicide is sad but trying to sue the school over it is trying to get closure with the wrong people

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blumpkinmania t1_ixo3wo6 wrote

This site is often no better than Twitter.

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Ant70 t1_ixoajao wrote

Nobody is winning in this situation.

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FUCKYOUINYOURFACE t1_ixofxoq wrote

Replying to lawlesswallace75 (#655,855)

I initially made that assumption but then I read the story and now I’m not so sure. The school sent her a notice they would potentially expel her as punishment for her spilling hot coffee on a male athlete who she claims was sexually assaulting a minor and she did that to get him to stop. It’s a messed up situation all around.

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baggagefree2day t1_ixog27h wrote

I think more had to be affecting her mental health other than a disciplinary letter. If she was right about her actions, and healthy mindset, wouldn’t she fight it?

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VallryBagr t1_ixojn3x wrote

Bad situation all around but you can’t assault someone with hot coffee and not expect repercussions.

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SuperMrTiddles t1_ixok0kd wrote

Replying to VallryBagr (#659,338)

The stories don’t seem consistent. Some read like she spilled the coffee while he was sexually assaulting the other girl and others read like she spilt the coffee on someone accused of sexual assault. If it’s the former I think they have the case but if not I don’t think they can prove liability.

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SuperMrTiddles t1_ixokbap wrote

Replying to FUCKYOUINYOURFACE (#658,792)

But even if that was her reason for doing it it doesn’t really justify the act. If someone is accused of something you don’t have the right to assault them just because. I’m not going to comment on the specifics of the football players case, but she did her own thing and was going to face potential consequences. I would like to add that it was only a potential expulsion, I’d be shocked if that was actually being considered or just listed as the worst outcomes like a lot of policies do.

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MuayThaiisbestthai t1_ixokxo5 wrote

Replying to FUCKYOUINYOURFACE (#658,792)

>for her spilling hot coffee on a male athlete who she claims was sexually assaulting a minor and she did that to get him to stop

Unless this article omitted some key facts, this is not what happened.

The S.A wasn't occurring when she spilled the coffee on him, it had already happened. Her then spilling the coffee on the player happened after the fact and probably in like a cafeteria or something.

So in the context of this article, she spilled the coffee after he was accused of S.A...not during the S.A itself. And that's why she was facing disciplinary action.

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JonnyAU t1_ixol33a wrote

Replying to SuperMrTiddles (#659,432)

We're not certain it constitutes assault or not, if it was even intentional or not, if there were any injuries, and if there were what the severity was.

It would be best not to assume anything.

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SuperMrTiddles t1_ixoluts wrote

Replying to JonnyAU (#659,522)

I’ll put a link but throwing your drink onto someone is assault in California.

Okay, you’re right, let’s not assume anything. If we’re not doing anything wouldn’t it make sense to discuss it with her and inform her of the punishment if the findings go against her? I’ve read a few articles and in none of them have I read anything that makes me feel like they were going to punish her, just that there was a potential punishment. I’m not sure how else they were supposed to handle it, because if they didn’t inform her that she could face punishment or what the punishment was then she’d have an argument that they’re blindsiding her.

https://www.hashemilaw.com/practice-areas/criminal-law-overview/california-define-assault-simple-assault/

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platon20 t1_ixomqhv wrote

To me the question is simple: did Stanford know she was suicidal? If they knew, then yes they are liable. If they did not know, then they are not liable.

If this lawsuit is successful, think about the ridiculous standard this sets -- it tells universities that ANY disciplinary moves whatsoever, no matter how trivial, are a trigger for suicide and therefore makes the colleges liable.

What about grades? Getting a failing grade can trigger stress and anxiety too -- does that mean colleges cant fail students because it might trigger a suicide?

This lawsuit is a desperate measure done by desperate people. It's not prudent, it's not lawful, and it's a sham.

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