joebro2022 t1_j5vgm1d wrote
Reply to comment by DelugeQc in IOC issues statement on solidarity with Ukraine & sanctions against Russia and Belarus - Atlethes will be allowed to compete under neutral flag by RandomDKguy
IOC can't just go banning athletes of countries because of the crimes their government commited. Very few countries would be left
paulc899 t1_j5vl105 wrote
Sure they can. South Africa wasn’t allowed to compete for years.
joebro2022 t1_j5vrcmj wrote
South Africa's White Minority had voting power unlike Russian Citizens.
poutinegalvaude t1_j5whlqn wrote
They also had all the power unlike the majority of South Africa’s population
joebro2022 t1_j5wwo0c wrote
What power?
poutinegalvaude t1_j5x8k56 wrote
Are you not aware of who was in control during apartheid?
intheken t1_j5xhmp6 wrote
I think you were supposed to say “the power of voodoo”
TheImperios t1_j5xgkuu wrote
The point here is that white South Africans had more agency over their government's actions than Russians.
poutinegalvaude t1_j5xnb23 wrote
Why would white South Africans want to upset the system that gave them so much money and power?
TheImperios t1_j5xw4ec wrote
The idea I think is exactly that. That while white South Africans could just vote the apartheid government out if they wanted, Russians cannot and their only option is armed insurgency (which is near-impossible while the regime is strong), meaning they are less to blame.
poutinegalvaude t1_j5xym3e wrote
I don't think they could have just voted them out, either. In 1946 it was a response to the foundation of the ANC but by 1948 the Herenigde Nasionale were in control and very authoritarian. White dissenters were treated very harshly, thus discouraging any future support for the dismantling of Apartheid.
TheImperios t1_j5xyng2 wrote
Yeah, it's complicated, IIRC South Africa was effectively ruled by a secret society
LiveOnFive t1_j5vj5kb wrote
They absolutely can. The International Biathlon Union did it immediately.
joebro2022 t1_j5vrgt7 wrote
Doesn't make it right
redditkindasuxballs t1_j5vxlll wrote
No the fact that their countries are causing a war of aggression against a sovereign nation, that’s what makes it right to ban the athletes from competing and bringing their country the prestige and capital that having Olympic athletes gains.
joebro2022 t1_j5vz7dh wrote
Then a lot of other countries should be banned. As those countries are doing the same.
redditkindasuxballs t1_j5w2bu5 wrote
Cool, ban em
joebro2022 t1_j5w2tw2 wrote
Although I disagree atleast your logic is consistent.
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PinkLegs t1_j5y9b6d wrote
What other countries?
joebro2022 t1_j5ytx1h wrote
China, Saudi, Israel, US, France etc.
PinkLegs t1_j5yvnxi wrote
What sovereign countries are China, Israel, US, France invading these days?
joebro2022 t1_j5z18wg wrote
China is doing something just as bad
Israel is literally occupying Palestine which is recongnized as sovereign country by most of the World's population and countries
US is not doing anything right now but they didn't get banned when they did.
PinkLegs t1_j5z3q37 wrote
Palestine is not sovereign, and China is just doing something??
Us is doing nothing, and you just forgot France.
So none of them is doing the same as Russia.
joebro2022 t1_j5z87l9 wrote
Palestine is a country. Israel should be banned for killing civilans in a foreign country
China is doing genocide if you didn't know
US werent banned when they invaded Iraq so neither should Russia
France has military personnel in Various African countries meddling in their affairs.
No point arguing with someone who doesn't recongnize Palestine as a country
hamhead t1_j5x3dvm wrote
>IOC can't just go banning athletes of countries because of the crimes their government commited. Very few countries would be left
They absolutely can, and have.
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