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alexbholder t1_ivrxu7x wrote

Thank goodness all those “No to 3” detractors lost out.

Look it’s not perfect but it being quantified into law allows the state to process Rec weed at a great state tax percentage.

Also heavy law based incentives.

Light em up boys

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matramepapi t1_ivta1uj wrote

for real. I was shocked to even see those.

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Comprehensive_Ad6049 t1_ivwc2bj wrote

Oh My Gosh you should have heard the water cooler conversations at my work. “ Now everyone is going to smell like pot! They’re all going to drive and cause so many crashes! DUIs will go through the roof. The kids will really lack intelligence! I was at a concert last week and those stoners were already walking around smoking as if it were legal” it’s crazy what they (the opposition) believe. My mind was blown.

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matramepapi t1_ivwnhd5 wrote

People have been smoking pot at concerts since the beginning of time 😭

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Comprehensive_Ad6049 t1_ivyuwts wrote

I know. I chuckled to myself then asked what kind of band and it’s a Zeppelin, AC/DC, and Green Day!! Wth do you expect?? 🫣🤭🤔

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matramepapi t1_ivz2i5f wrote

Omg. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I saw Roger Waters at T-Mobile arena in KC, people were sparking up within 30 seconds of the first song.

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Cold417 t1_ivvrua6 wrote

They'll probably just use this extra tax to reduce corporate/wealth taxation instead of using it to augment existing social programs.

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dtjayhawk t1_ivvzybf wrote

That is 100% what they will do. So much for the TV ads that said “benefitting the veterans”.

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AmcillaSB t1_ivs8n25 wrote

Yeah, I'm so happy Amendment 3 codified Critical Race Theory into our Constitution.

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Bowenbax t1_ivsbo0p wrote

Me too! It’s about time we learn about the systematic oppressions in our society, culture, and government.

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ThatOddLittleFellow t1_ivsc1l4 wrote

God I wish, dude this is Missouri. Even you know you're stretching this bullshit talking point.

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AmcillaSB t1_ivsc7e0 wrote

It was sarcasm, lol.

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ThatOddLittleFellow t1_ivschz4 wrote

Ahh that is my bad. I see stuff like this so much but legitimately that I honestly didn't give it a second thought.

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AmcillaSB t1_ivscxwt wrote

When I first saw a sign saying to "Vote No on 3" I really didn't understand its talking points. I read "No CRT in the Constitution!" and thought they were talking about something like CBD, haha. It was only reading here on this sub on election day did it finally hit me what the sign was talking about. It was so far removed from reality conceptually and off-topic my brain just didn't put it together.

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ThatOddLittleFellow t1_ivsd5l6 wrote

I didn't see any of those but I absolutely do not doubt it here. Hell those people were protesting that Planned Parenthood for a while after it was closed down. I don't honestly have a lot of hope in strangers here lol. Weirdly enough as red as Springfield seems to vote all I've met are left leaning people in this city, so maybe i should start giving people the benefit of the doubt.

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jodamnboi t1_ivu6dob wrote

I saw those signs all over Springfield. I burst out laughing when I read it lmao

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AmcillaSB t1_ivu8f6u wrote

I've got a neighbor with crappy politics who puts signs up of the worst-of-the-worst. I take a look at what he's advertising, and basically vote the opposite.

Even after Todd Akin made the "legitimate rape" comment, my neighbor kept the guy's sign up. The real kicker is that he's an ER doc living in a million dollar home. He should know better...but nope. Trashy.

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Kabosh668 t1_ivtvrms wrote

they really couldnt tell what you were going for there lol

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alexbholder t1_ivso76q wrote

Add a /s at the end.

Sarcasm is enjoyable but context is needed haha

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mattmaddux t1_ivu1t3p wrote

Exactly. Even though I often bemoan that’s it’s ever needed, when your statement is indistinguishable from other sincere comments you can find on the same sub you need to make it clear.

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Dbol504 t1_ivt752w wrote

Now please tell us exactly what critical race theory really is without using Google.

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DebbieDunnbbar t1_ivs96sh wrote

What the fuck happened in Arkansas, though?

I’m like flabbergasted at how badly their marijuana amendment failed. And they have medical already. Usually it’s an easy layup to recreational after that. Was there some weird fuckery around that amendment or something?

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Always_0421 t1_ivsbtls wrote

They just started participating in state wide scratcher tickets in 2009 and there are still dry counties today.

I'm mildly suprised, but not shocked.

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WorldFoods t1_ivt3a3g wrote

There are still dry counties in AR — I grew up in one and it’s still dry.

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Arc-ansas t1_ivtbwef wrote

A former legislator (Eddie Armstrong) became part of a Chicago cannabis corporation and wrote the law without the help of any of the longstanding activists in the state. They wrote a bad law that put too few companies in control, had no grow your own, a low possession level and many more bad provisions. This created a massive opposition by pro Marijuana activists. Combine that with the anti prohibition crowd and you have a loosing campaign.

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Darktire t1_ivtz0ba wrote

Used to live in Springfield, live in Arkansas now. It failed because it was a truly terrible bill that would have allowed the states cannabis industry to be monopolized by out of state companies. A lot of people that support legalization voted against it because of how bad it was. Also, Arkansas is full of a bunch of “religious” nut jobs (yes, even more so than Springfield/Missouri) so it was an up hill battle even if it were a perfect amendment.

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mrsdex1 t1_ivt79ag wrote

Good Day Farms failed to buy the industry there. You all really didn't know it was the same money buying both bills?

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M1dnightHero t1_ivu6evn wrote

The fact that this passed with only a 53% yes shows how much young people still aren’t voting.

The polling data prior to Election Day was significantly higher than reality.

The voting power of elderly republicans should never be underestimated. (They were the only polling demographic who majority were polled to vote no).

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AnarchticChill t1_ivuawun wrote

Missouri neighbors 8 states and only 1 of them has (highly taxed) recreational cannabis. Missouri has the potential to become a weed epicenter. Only Tennessee borders as many states and they won't be legalizing for a while.

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tmcgee417 t1_ivtbuz5 wrote

I live in AR now, but this gave me a chuckle.

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Patient_Clothes3673 t1_ivts8e8 wrote

This is a step in the direction I will take to start a business and to give back to the community.

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jrbear09 t1_ivvowh1 wrote

Cape Girardeau county be like

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ozarkslam21 t1_ivvwmvv wrote

Missouri Republican Lawmakers that Republican Voters elected: Ooooohh im not sure about this.

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armenia4ever t1_iw4x0u1 wrote

This is the Bipartisan thread we need, but don't deserve. I'll take it.

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mrsdex1 t1_ivt75lx wrote

You all know Old Rte 66 dispensaries have a literal prison camp side hustle right?

We ain't ever gonna be like the 5 states that just permanently ended slavery, as they will fight tooth and nail to keep the prison camps open.

May the odds be forever in your favor.

https://sbj.net/stories/2021-12-people-john-lopez,72065

https://k9sforcamo.org/what-we-do/

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bthornsy t1_ivtab8g wrote

I just read through your links and what you claim happens and what seems to be happening are steeped in two different realities.

For those who don’t wanna read it, the dude that owns OR 66 dispensaries has another business that trains service dogs for veterans with PTSD at no cost to them. Inmates learn how to train them and not only gain a pretty cool skill, but in my opinion, if you’re in prison, would you rather hang out with dogs all day or other inmates, some potentially dangerous?

Is unpaid prison labor wrong? Fuck yes. Does this beat stamping license plates and digging ditches? Fuck yes.

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mrsdex1 t1_ivtb57p wrote

You realize 5 states literally just voted to end slaverly completely on November 8th.

I'm sorry, as a former cannabis felon I don't have the spoons to explain that slavery in all forms is bad. Laws are created to fill prisons with people convicted of non-violent/victimless crimes.

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bthornsy t1_ivtbja1 wrote

Dude I’m not disagreeing with you that all slavery is bad, and when that issue hits our ballot I will certainly vote in favor of ending it.

Assuming a NO vote would have won on our ballot for Amendment 3 this time… Would that have stopped prison labor?

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mrsdex1 t1_ivtglqi wrote

The recreational industry licenses where literally just handed to literal prison camp owners.

The language itself states the purpose is to remove cannabis from the Black Market. Hint, prohibition didn't work, whatever he industry owners have planned won't work either but it's gonna suck for anyone caught up in the system.

Those people where just given the power, money, and influence to ensure it never hits the MO ballot. Part of the campaign messaging was shaming legacy/black market growers, they aren't hiding what they are doing.

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Saltpork545 t1_ivu3zqm wrote

No, they didn't vote to 'end slavery'. They voted to remove slavery from their state constitutions. Those state laws were enulled by the 14th amendment.

The idea that this has modern implications is nonsensical. This is a procedural vote that's basically feel good. As long as the 14th amendment is a thing states can't make new state level laws about actual slavery.

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Pegacorn21 t1_ivu63rh wrote

Involuntary labor (slavery by another name) is still a valid form of punishment in many jurisdictions. Some prisoners are forced to work whether they want to or not, and they're not paid for that work. Four of the states in question removed that option from their constitutions. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voters-in-4-states-reject-slavery-involuntary-servitude-as-punishment-for-crime The fifth state actually rejected their amendment due to language issues, but are planning on bringing it up again in the future.

So no, it's not just a feel good vote, it does have practical implications for prisoners. As the PBS article I linked mentions it's a bit more nuanced than, "This immediately ends all forced prison labor", but it lays the groundwork for challenges.

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SharksForArms t1_ivukynx wrote

13th amendment considers prison labor to be a form of slavery and explicitly allows it. Those states outlawed said forced prison labor, which according to the constitution, is actual slavery.

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mrsdex1 t1_ivu5pis wrote

Slaverly is allowed for punishment of a crime, 13th Amendment.

No state is required to allow/participate in slavery. The feds are not allowed to step in and stop it.

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