Submitted by HorrorCharacter5127 t3_125eg3o in technology
noorbeast t1_je415qm wrote
Should Americans be protected from the technological tentacles of the Chinese Communist Party, for sure, at the same time the rest of us should be protected from American survielence capitalist social media + NSA, as non-USA democratic citizens don't we deserve the same respect and consideration, or are the $$$ just too alluring to live up to shared values /s.
koolaidisthestuff t1_je4s7ys wrote
Yeah it’s hilarious watching some archaic politician talk about privacy like that’s the issue.. but only attacking one Chinese company and not the thousands here, some run by the govt themselves.
Do as I say not as I do.
garygoblins t1_je4ykcp wrote
How are people not getting that they don't give a fuck about privacy. The entire crux of the issue is the Chinese government having direct access to influence and push propaganda to 150 million Americans (as well as potentially backdoor the app and compromise devices if they chose to in the future).
Reasonable_Ticket_84 t1_je4z3at wrote
>t having direct access to influence and push propaganda to 150 million American
As opposed to Fox News which is directly influencing and pushing propaganda for coup attempts?
garygoblins t1_je4zd99 wrote
Fox news is terrible and should go away, but that's an entirely different legal problem. That would be banning free speech (the government can't restrict citizens speech). The key difference is that it's a hostile foreign entity vs a hostile domestic entity. You can't treat them the same.
cambeiu t1_je4zpso wrote
>The key difference is that it's a hostile foreign entity
Top 10: Countries Receiving U.S. Exports
China … $41.9 billion (up 89.6%)
United Kingdom …$38.6 billion (up 16.3%)
Germany … $34.2 billion (up 28.6%)
South Korea … $27.8 billion (up 23%)
Netherlands … $26.5 billion (up 44.8%)
France … $22.4 billion (up 17.9%)
Taiwan … $22.1 billion (up 20.1%)
The "hostile entity" is hands down our #1 trade partner and a massive source of income.
Being a rival is not the same thing as being a hostile foreign entity.
garygoblins t1_je4zxv1 wrote
sigh. You can still be trading with someone and they can still be your enemy. Just because we're not at war with them, doesn't mean they aren't hostile.
cambeiu t1_je50bsn wrote
>You can still be trading with someone and they can still be your enemy.
How is China our "enemy"? When did China ever attack or threatened to attack the United States? The USSR was an enemy. They represented a fundamental existential threat to the United States. China does not. China is challenging our leadership position globally, but it has no intention to and gains nothing by destroying the United States.
johnjohn4011 t1_je5l3a4 wrote
Maybe China is not strictly an enemy but they're definitely not our best friend at this point - and do much to actively undermine our system here on our soil.
LizzosDietitian t1_je6ccxg wrote
China without a doubt views the United States as their #1 enemy.
Just look at their plans to take over the western pacific. The United States is the only thing in China’s way of fucking with international shipping lanes
garygoblins t1_je513f0 wrote
Bisoromi t1_je5ytfw wrote
You just linked a bunch of propaganda. Still serving swill in the US, I see. Eat it up hogs.
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SirAidandRinglocks t1_je7clna wrote
Why should I fear the Chinese more than the US?
Did China bomb MOVE?
Did China kill Frank Olsen?
Did China kill Fred Hampton?
Please explain why China is scarier than the US?
garygoblins t1_je7g7c5 wrote
The Chinese government is absolutely scarier than U.S. companies. We're not talking about the U.S government.
Did the U.S put Uyghur Muslims into concentration camps?
Did the U.S. murder student protesters and claim it didn't happen to this day?
Did the U.S invade and subjugate the Tibetan people?
SirAidandRinglocks t1_je7ghkk wrote
None of those people were in the US though.
Are the Chinese going to roll a tank through my town?
TeaKingMac t1_je672ng wrote
>Chinese government having direct access to influence and push propaganda to 150 million Americans
I didn't realize all those thirst traps were Chinese.
garygoblins t1_je696q8 wrote
I don't know if you've ever used TikTok, but 85% or the stuff that isn't thirst traps/onlyfans promotion is straight up misinformation. Even if it isn't Chinese instigated, TikTok is by far the scariest platform I've ever seen (worse than Facebook imo)
TeaKingMac t1_je6a5zl wrote
>85% or the stuff that isn't thirst traps/onlyfans promotion is straight up misinformation
That's the internet. Have you seen the Drudge Report within the last decade? Or The Blaze?
They're slamming one company for something that's very common throughout the internet.
And the tool they're using to do so is WILDLY broad.
inthearticleuidiot t1_je5r39h wrote
I doubt anyone is failing to "get" this. Most people having not been born yesterday remember our last few elections being heavily influenced by China and Russia via American competitors to Tik Tok. Singling out Tik Tok does nothing for American citizens.
dirtroad207 t1_je594jz wrote
Yeah I mean China can already buy most of the data tracked through tiktok anyway.
The_Red_Grin_Grumble t1_je6qhjw wrote
It's not about buying the data, it's about controlling the algorithm that pushes misinformation.
Ask yourself, why are US social media companies banned in China? Why is it a big deal if the US chooses to do the same?
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