Submitted by HorrorCharacter5127 t3_125eg3o in technology
Gold_Rush69 t1_je41med wrote
Glad to see the country that runs concentration camps in the 21st century is getting good PR.
ChampionshipKlutzy42 t1_je4lqys wrote
Are you talking about the US putting refugee children in cages at the border and having the highest incarceration rates in the world?
Potential-Panda-2814 t1_je98nb0 wrote
No answer?
Where would you rather the children go?
ChampionshipKlutzy42 t1_je9dysk wrote
Where would the children go? clearly not in cages! it costs the tax payers $50-60 dollars a day to detain them in those conditions. $1500 a month.
How many people would let refugees have a spare room in their home if the government paid them $1500 a month per person?
A program could be created as an extension of the foster care system.
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Potential-Panda-2814 t1_je4tct1 wrote
Where would you rather the children go?
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Gold_Rush69 t1_je4uuws wrote
No, I’m talking about China putting Uyghurs in prison camps where they are tortured, raped, starved, beaten, and executed.
And China has the highest incarceration rate considering the whole country is a prison.
The_Last_Green_leaf t1_je4ta8g wrote
none of those are concentration camps, also whataboutism.
SectorEducational460 t1_je54wn6 wrote
Is it whataboutism when you point a hypocrisy out?
The_Last_Green_leaf t1_je94ayj wrote
no whataboutism is whenever people point out the fact that china is currently committing a genocide, you Chinese bots go "mUh aMeRiCa" to defend them.
that is textbook whataboutism.
SectorEducational460 t1_je9bvc2 wrote
It's fair argument when the topic is relevant.
The_Last_Green_leaf t1_jefuog7 wrote
but the topic isn't relevant because we're talking about china's current ongoing genocide.
atwegotsidetrekked t1_je4iw6k wrote
Gold_Rush69 t1_je4wvvp wrote
That doesn’t really factor the fact that most of the world still have the death penalty, cops you can bride, or poor law enforcement.
You may argue that some US states have the death penalty as well but it’s so bureaucratic and slow hardly anyone ever gets executed in the states where it is legal.
Also I’d take a prison sentence in the US over being stoned to death in Saudi Arabia, especially considering the fact that adultery is punishable by death, and that includes women who get raped since apparently that counts as adultery.
Uganda just made being gay punishable by death, but hey, at least they have a low incarceration rate.
Also China has the highest incarceration rate in the world considering the whole country is a prison.
The US my have a high incarceration rate compared to the rest of the world but the rest of the world kinda sucks at criminal justice.
atwegotsidetrekked t1_je4z9fh wrote
The USA sucks at criminal justice.
Your comparison to awful countries proves my point. The United States is the worst among western nations. When your using Saudi Arabia and China as your starting metric for human rights, that’s a fucking low bar.
I am not going to get in the gutter about what country sucks most, I am just saying that the USA is a glass house on human rights both domestic and abroad. But yeah, better than China, low bar.
Do better
Gold_Rush69 t1_je5ahzy wrote
You’re the one who started the whataboutism by responding to my criticism of China’s concentration camps with incarceration statistics.
“better then China, low bar”
That was literally my original point.
FISHING_100000000000 t1_je535qo wrote
Sure, we’ve got empty bottles, food wrappers, and piss stains everywhere, but we’re better than than than the landfill down the road!
Gold_Rush69 t1_je5chts wrote
Literally the same thing they replied to my original comment with.
Me: China has concentration camps.
Them: responds with link to incarceration stats
Teftell t1_je4mui0 wrote
Also that country as well as another country will have less censorship and no prosecution for using VPN if that bill passes, making US a sole champion of totalitarian censorship and opression.
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