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thats-fucked_up t1_jdcpknd wrote

They're chasing a moving target. Let's see if they can catch them. The big difference is that Ford is distracted by its money makers and Tesla is not. (See Saturn.) Tesla is the only one making a profit, and by the time Ford is building 600,000 units, Tesla will be building two to four million, plus directly threatening every American car makers' cash cow by building their Cybertruck.

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i_am_covered t1_jdcr07k wrote

If you think the cyber truck is a threat to the F150 I’m not sure what to tell you.

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Ancient_Persimmon t1_jdd7xkq wrote

What makes you think it wouldn't be?

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peakzorro t1_jddmo7r wrote

Because the F-150 is available now, and the truck is nowhere to be found.

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Bensemus t1_jddutcl wrote

The F-150 is in production but at a very low volume. Ford isn't really breaking away from Tesla unless they get the Lighting up to real production numbers.

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Ancient_Persimmon t1_jddnmtu wrote

Well it's not in production at the moment. What about in July when it is?

The ~15k Lightnings delivered so far is a good start, but 3 million pickups are sold every year in the US.

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Badfickle t1_jddv2v0 wrote

The cybertruck will still be profitable before the lightning is. That's not to say the lightning isn't a good truck. It's just the reality of where the companies are right now.

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Badfickle t1_jdcv7iv wrote

The cyber truck does have 1.5 million pre-orders. The demand is there. It depends mostly on how many they can produce next year.

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i_am_covered t1_jdcvm4d wrote

Sure it did. At $100 a pop when it was a $40k truck and the only EV option. Call me when they sell one.

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BeyoncesmiddIefinger t1_jdem6rn wrote

You do realize the lightning also went up like $16,000 in price in just a few months, right? Lucid, rivian, ford, kia, Hyundai, all raising prices this is nothing new. As much as the lightning has jacked up it’s price I still see overwhelming positive reviews about it. I think you’re overestimating how much a cybertruck price increase will actually hurt it’s demand. What are the other EV trucks to even choose from in the price range?

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i_am_covered t1_jdenzzs wrote

Yeah I’m sure being the same price as a normal F150 and having zero competition had nothing to do with it. It’s also not coming out so it’s utterly irrelevant also.

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cliffski t1_jdf4199 wrote

so the texas factory and the thousands of employees working on it now, and the twin 9 thousand ton gigapresses are all imaginary right? People spun the same bullshit about the model 3, saying it would never get built. Turns out...they build quite a few of them.

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i_am_covered t1_jdf87wt wrote

Yep. It’ll be pushed back again and again and again and eventually they’ll release something that looks nothing like the cyber truck called the Model Tee and it’ll be fine. The cyber truck, like the roadster, will be lost to history.

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Bensemus t1_jdit1dd wrote

Tesla has zero history of doing this. You have nothing to base your claim on.

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i_am_covered t1_jditqv5 wrote

They have zero history of launching a truck also. I’m sure it’ll come. All in good time. A year here, three years there.

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Badfickle t1_jdcxolq wrote

That's true. They will undoubtedly raise the price considerably to start with and not even offer the cheapest version. They can do that because the demand is high and they will be supply constrained at first and can make more profit off the higher end versions. Prices could be in the 80k-90k range and I would not be at all surprised to see them reach 30-40% margins once they hit volume production.

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dead_ed t1_jddczlw wrote

they're not preorders. I have one and I do not at all consider it a 'preorder'.

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SeaworthinessLeft88 t1_jdcrovr wrote

Ah yes, the elusive cybertruck. Announced 4 years ago and discussed conceptually for 10 years, yet still not in production. Just like “full self driving”, it’s always due to arrive within the next year.

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Ancient_Persimmon t1_jdd7v48 wrote

Expect a delivery event July 1st for their 20th anniversary.

It's not as if we haven't seen multitudes of development vehicles and the factory build out.

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Badfickle t1_jdd25uk wrote

You are absolutely, factually correct except you forgot that TESLA BAD.

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