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forestapee t1_jcmjgqg wrote

Reply to comment by Suzki in Big tech companies are selling their Silicon Valley campuses amid struggle by McFatty7

That and converting into malls or multipurpose offices for startups are probably some of the options that'll be used. Hopefully they go to good use one way or another

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[deleted] t1_jcncsju wrote

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HaMMeReD t1_jcnoytz wrote

Yeah, think of the building and the layout. I.e. in apartments, everyone has a bathroom, plumbing etc. In an office, there MAY be one kitchen per floor, a two bathrooms right next to each other, etc. Shared HVAC systems, etc.

Converting it means gutting everything from electrical to plumbing.

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No_Demand7741 t1_jcoj4td wrote

I have heard the same but I think moving forward if this conversion is to succeed it will need to be cheaper.

Why not just add a false floorboard to the entire floor and run plumbing and electrical in that space?

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UrbanGhost114 t1_jcomsg4 wrote

Same reason you don't generally do it at home.

Edit: water pressure.

More edit:. There is a LOT of engineering that goes into water pressure.

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No_Demand7741 t1_jcomuwp wrote

I would 100% do this at home

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UrbanGhost114 t1_jconb9w wrote

Have fun with not understanding water pressure!

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millertime1419 t1_jcoyrw5 wrote

I’m an engineer who understands water pressure and have no idea what your concern about it is…

Water service is the easiest thing in a building, the pressurized system means you can make vertical bends, use flexible tubing, etc. sanitary is the tricky one since it drains by gravity.

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Hardass_McBadCop t1_jcpc7zj wrote

I'm guessing that he's mostly concerned with, and talking about, skyscrapers where they're so tall that the water pressure can be a problem for the higher floors.

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tiredofmyownself t1_jcpt3n6 wrote

Most of these campuses in the original article do not have any skyscrapers so if the concern is based on that, it’s not really applicable.

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No_Demand7741 t1_jcondck wrote

What?

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UrbanGhost114 t1_jconj8d wrote

Exactly! Water pressure is a gigantic issue.

Also, when your done with that, remind yourself why water and electricity don't go well together.

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No_Demand7741 t1_jconks8 wrote

What the fuck are you talking about

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UrbanGhost114 t1_jconrzf wrote

You would put your plumbing, and electricity under your floor boards, without understanding why they don't do that now?

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No_Demand7741 t1_jcontt0 wrote

They do do that now what the fuck are you talking about

Make a point

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InternetUser007 t1_jcp1e16 wrote

Both water and electricity run through my walls. Do you think they are just mixing around in there together? Lmao.

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crazylilrikki t1_jco7sbk wrote

> multipurpose offices for startups

This is purely anecdotal but I haven’t seen a startup offer anything other than full remote roles with the occasional option to be hybrid in the past couple of years so I’m thinking they’re mostly not interested in investing in real estate. But I guess maybe they could be massive coworking spaces?

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suztown t1_jcp5ol4 wrote

Certain industries like biotech require physical workspaces though, so maybe those?

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NefariousnessNo484 t1_jcpktgd wrote

Those need special permitting and they usually can't be in spaces designed for offices without a ton of construction. So yes it could be done, but it would be super expensive in an already ass expensive area. It's why a ton of biotechs are moving to Texas.

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werepat t1_jcon7pb wrote

Malls and offices? Aren't those two specifically noted as casualties of e-commerce and work-from-home jobs?

It needs to be housing and green space.

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voidvector t1_jcomre8 wrote

Startups are going full remote at a higher rate than big tech. Two startups I previously worked at are now full remote.

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Stiv_b t1_jcpdhu1 wrote

And, if you are launching a new startup you’re no longer gonna commit to big leases when you could use that money for R&D.

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jdbrew t1_jcpp1uo wrote

Malls? What is this, 1983? Even out here in the Midwest where you need indoor shopping with heating when it’s under 20° and AC when it’s over 100°, malls are dead. We had so many, now we’re down to 3, and only 1 of them ever has any people at it. The other two are half vacant units too

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yond001 t1_jcnz47b wrote

Probably crazy zoning laws that would somehow block that

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DevAway22314 t1_jcoivnc wrote

Zoning laws would block most anything you wanted to do with them. The bay area has some of the most restrictive zoming in the world. That's why despite the lack of housing and insane rent proces, the vast majority of land is still dedicated to single-family homes. They loterally are not allowed to do anything else with it

The bay will be forced to redo their zoning eventually. It's already stunted the growth the area could have had to become a large diversified metro area

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yond001 t1_jcpe9db wrote

The residents that ensure these zoning laws care more about their home prices being elevated then the growth of the area.

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