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InsideOutsider t1_isonxcy wrote

Shooting to kill I thought presupposes the officer or a citizen's life is in danger. Since a robot is not a life, but equipment, the use of lethal force would only be applied to stop someone killing other people. Right?

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SpotifyIsBroken t1_ispkoda wrote

They will use these robots to harass people until they get annoyed enough that they can "justify" getting away with more murders.

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bigtimephonk t1_isooshu wrote

This is the only way to get those cops into schools to stop shooters. But I'm sure you'll see these pop up on the streets of Portland ASAP.

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CALdreamin86 t1_isor2d4 wrote

Oakland total violent crimes 2021: 1,273 US School shootings since forever: 209

Oakland murders since 1992: 2,655 All US school shooting since forever: 210

I'd say inner city violence is a bigger priority. More children die from that than school shootings.

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theblackfool t1_ispe7m2 wrote

Unless all those violent crimes are murder or attempted murder, this comparison is pointless.

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CALdreamin86 t1_isplp1k wrote

No it's not useless. Violent crimes.

But since you want numbers to numbers Oakland since 1992: 2,655 vs 210

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rusty_programmer t1_ispycfm wrote

He’s saying it’s a false equivalence because it’s not directly comparable and you know that. Violent crime is purposefully vague to fit your argument’s criteria which has little real world value.

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CALdreamin86 t1_isqbsfp wrote

I gave murder stats and violent crime stats.

For a city filled with crime and murder, yall sure do like to bitch about cops. ACAB amirite?

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bigtimephonk t1_isq04px wrote

If cops with guns can't stop crime what are robots with guns going to do? Nothing, bro. Not a damn thing. Cops don't prevent crime. They don't stop crime. They don't solve crimes. Robots won't either. Eliminate poverty to eliminate crime.

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CALdreamin86 t1_isqb9yi wrote

Well that's a new one. I notice the common theme here is crime. Have you asked criminals to not do criminal shit?

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Infamous_Yogurt2858 t1_isrx2wu wrote

It's not a zero-sum game.

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CALdreamin86 t1_ist9yph wrote

No but comparing school shooting to city crime is ridiculous. Someone had to pull the stats.

Besides I'm in the Bay, I'll talk about it.

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SidewaysFancyPrance t1_ispfxbd wrote

"We can escalate situations more quickly and more often if we don't have to worry about an officer's safety. Knowing we will all go home to our families really lets us open up with the new Street Sweeper attachment, and it feels like a fun video game!"

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Infamous_Yogurt2858 t1_isrx0g3 wrote

THIS.

There's a valid argument to be made for robots in certain law enforcement contexts if it means that there will be less risk to human life, but I don't think we're in a place right now where we can trust that will be the case.

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-The_Blazer- t1_isoug43 wrote

Oh don't worry, they have plenty of technicalities for that. They'll say the person in question was acting aggressively and moving towards civilians and thus they had to gun him down for everyone's safety. Like the infamous cop who told a drunk guy to crawl toward him and then gunned him down when he slightly moved his hand toward his hip.

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buruzn09 t1_isqpusf wrote

Depends on the law in the particular state, but I believe that in large part you are correct.

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