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LoserMotron t1_iyagkyi wrote

Here comes right to repair fights.

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jh937hfiu3hrhv9 t1_iyahyl5 wrote

Dealers have been repairing other brands since the begining of time. BFD.

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MasterpieceBrave420 t1_iyaji6b wrote

It's more of an upgrade really. They probably make sure the doors won't fall off.

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dont-YOLO-ragequit t1_iyaoxa1 wrote

This article explains nothing on the matter.

Does GM officially endorse and targets repairs on Teslas or are dealers(or mega dealers) using their cross manufacturer connections to get it done?

For exemple, lots of dealer networks just setup a big used car network to funnel less desirable trade ins to and use all the dealers to get parts. You come and trade in an Audi at a BMW dealer, if it is low mileage, they sent it to the Audi dealer to be certified and sold at premium in the group, if it has more mileage, it gets sent to the used car outlet who will use local car parts and parts from the Audi dealer.

In this way, a GM dealer could be seen as flipping Teslas and thus repairing them.

In an other way, customers could have figured out that it is cheaper or less time to repair to just go to a GM dealer, talk with the service advisor and get brakes, Suspension, wheels and other fast moving repairs done than to deal with the hassle of Tesla's post sale service.

Last could be that Tesla has yet to make proprietary OBD codes around their EV diagnosis and most EV techs can easily work on all EVs which, Not only GM but Nissan, Ford and others do.

All of this can be intercepted as what is being told through the grapevine.

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WutWhoSaidDat t1_iybcfau wrote

Not very quiet if it made the news.

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Qlinkenstein t1_iybcpyf wrote

Replying to HaikusAreMyKink (#782,278)

>The idea points to a critical difference between Tesla and older automakers.

>GM’s Reach Is Everywhere. Tesla’s Is Limited. Tesla doesn’t operate stores or service centers in every state.

>The company has a fleet of mobile repair units that can perform many services in owners’ driveways. But, for more complicated repairs, owners must bring their cars (or have them towed) to service centers that can be hundreds of miles away.

>Owners have complained that it’s hard to get an appointment at many, and repair prices can be high.

>Tesla can’t solve that problem quickly. The company directly owns its own sales centers, which is forbidden by law in some states.

>Traditional automakers work through networks of dealerships, which are business partners they don’t own. That leaves them splitting the profit from each sale with middlemen. But it means they can operate everywhere.

>General Motors has a network of thousands of dealerships – so many that, the company estimates, 90% of Americans live within a 10-mile drive of one.

>For some Tesla owners, getting to a nearby Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, or GMC dealership would be far simpler than working through Tesla’s complex repair network.

>Automakers Know Their Competitor’s Products Most GM dealerships now have service technicians certified to work on electric cars, with its own growing electric lineup to service.

>And most automakers know their competitors’ products intimately. They buy competitors’ vehicles for benchmark testing and study.

>There’s even an engineering company that buys most cars, dismantles them down to individual fasteners, and sells that information to the competition. Tesla knows exactly how Subaru attaches carpet in a trunk. Subaru knows how Honda’s rev-matching transmissions signal when to shift.

>And, presumably, GM knows how Tesla arranges its battery cells for cooling and can reassemble them.

>Move Puts Tesla In a Tough Spot It’s less clear how GM’s dealer network is getting access to Tesla parts. That might be a valve Tesla could close.

>But Reuss’s offhand announcement puts Tesla in a public relations bind. The company could tighten parts distribution to try to make it more difficult for GM, and other non-Tesla repair shops, to work on its cars.

>But that risks the ire of owners who just found out they have closer service options than they knew.

>So Tesla has a choice: let its owners walk around GM showrooms looking at new GM electric cars while GM fixes their broken Tesla, or choke off the parts supply and leave some owners resentful that they’re left towing their car to another state for repair.

>“This is why Tesla is now investing millions to replicate the brick-and-mortar service centers we already have,” Reuss said.

>Reporters at the investor event say Reuss chuckled softly as he made his offhand revelation.

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hoppeeness t1_iybe718 wrote

I mean…not sure what they are fixing…conveniently it’s not said and it’s only 11k vehicles.

Almost definitely it is just tire changes…but you know the headline gets clicks.

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anoldradical t1_iybfk6y wrote

Can they fix mine because I've had this damn rental for almost 2 months and I still have no clue when it'll be done

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Bipolarbearingit t1_iybg8a0 wrote

May as well change this to r/elonmusk since no one can get off his nuts.

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Lamacorn t1_iybk9um wrote

Replying to Mattjhkerr (#788,981)

Then they clearly don’t own a Tesla or at least never needed any sort of repair because there are a fuck ton of authorized Tesla repair places other than Tesla.

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littleMAS t1_iybn6i9 wrote

EVs generally need fewer repairs than ICE vehicles. A friend with a Leaf said that the only schedule maintenance work was tire rotation, even the brakes lasted forever. I suspect the more frequent Tesla service is body work, and most dealers farm that out.

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Bluest_waters t1_iybuq0h wrote

Replying to dont-YOLO-ragequit (#784,305)

Tesla's secret is that it thrives on selling billions of dollars worth of carbon credits to major auto makers. Tesla is happy because they get money, the auto makers are happy because they don't have to actually produce large amounts of EV. Some years the money Tesla makes off the carbon credits represent nearly their entire profit.

So GM is quietly fixing Tesla in part because it wants Tesla to keep doing what its doing.

Problem for Tesla is that more and more major auto makers have EVs coming online and they expect their EV sales to jump. That means less demand for carbon credits, which means lower profits for Tesla. Plus Elon is going to be forced to contineu to sell Tesla stock to service his twitter debts for the foreseeable future. Both of these things will be putting downward pressure on Tesla stock months, possibly years, to come.

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LiquidateGlowyAssets t1_iyckqip wrote

Replying to sexygodzilla (#798,712)

Inshallah it gets broken up and the actually productive parts nationalized. Their solarcity acquisition was basically a scam against their shareholders, as was the CEO using corporate assets to gamble billions of dollars on worthless cryptocurrencies.

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hoppeeness t1_iycytml wrote

Replying to Funicularly (#797,959)

I am asking what do you think GM is actually doing? Only 11k vehicles and the article gives no details. What are they actually fixing? Just swapping wheels could easily be 11k vehicles.

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Bensemus t1_iyejbhv wrote

Replying to emende21 (#784,769)

Breaking News: Company that sells self driving software self publishes random test that shows their competitor failing. No other cars tested or even their own system. Test completely contradicts government testing in Europe and the US. Company's last test was found to be faked.

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Diegobyte t1_iyeqqp2 wrote

Replying to Mattjhkerr (#788,981)

Teslas no dealership plan honestly sucks if you live outside a major city. There isn’t even a Tesla center in my whole state. But there are indépendant dealerships for every other manufacturer

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