Submitted by Sorin61 t3_z8l6sc in technology
RejZoR t1_iycs7ib wrote
Reply to comment by goatfather1969 in Gmail now learns from your behaviour, but there's a catch by Sorin61
ProtonMail. Using it for years exactly because of shit like this. Good phone client, good web client, reasonable price and it's E2EE. So privacy is assured by default.
Just be aware that encryption inherently brings certain problems and limitations, like automatic forwarding is not possible, POP3/IMAP requires a "bridge" for communication between service and device running mail client.
[deleted] t1_iyd2dww wrote
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RejZoR t1_iydapel wrote
I think you confused E2EE with Star Wars robot R2D2 :P
Ultimately, even when E2EE isn't used, the mailbox access is still fully encrypted. ProtonMail has to accept mail in whatever form on the ingress side, but once it's received, it's encrypted with your credentials. Something GMail or Outlook doesn't do at all as your mails are essentially stored there in plain text, only access to that plain text format is granted through correct password which is just for user side access, not for the operator aka Google. Only point they are encrypted is during transit from their mail server to another mail server. It's why GMail can do all sorts of clever mail sorting, combing and data extraction because they have all the access to your mails and ProtonMail cannot because they don't have such access. Only access they have is some metadata, mail addresses and subject lines for basic spam filtering and sorting. They have no access to mail body.
One could argue one could spy on users on the ingress side, but when you're that paranoid, you really need to ensure all participants in communication use E2EE using same clients, be it voice, mail or IM. Ultimately, even if ProtonMail wasn't encrypted, I'd use it because my primary goal was just stop using GMail. There are paid for services that claim to respect user privacy as you pay for the service where Google's "all this free shit" has to cost something else if it's free as service.
[deleted] t1_iydj2vw wrote
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RejZoR t1_iyez03g wrote
I mean, that should be understandable by any internet literate person. It's like making a regular call and other person is using a speaker on the other end, on a crowded bus. Your end is private, the other end isn't. It's same with such communication.
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