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Scrotum_Parm t1_j1yo6e8 wrote

Name one multi billion dollar industry that isn't partly outsourced to foreign workers.

Underpaid? By American standards, absolutely, but not by their local standards. Is it wrong? Yeah, on multiple levels, but it's legal and the cheapest way to get shit done.

Tech is not alone in this, and especially not AI in particular.

Your shoes, pants, shirt, watch, phone, laptop, car, and practically everything in your house has at least components that come from outside your country. Sure, some things are locally sourced and produced, but I guarentee you anything electronic isn't.

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federalfinder t1_j1ytijh wrote

Right, some of these firms are paying over 50% above the average wage in the developing world to do simple content moderation.

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unresolved_m t1_j1zd9f1 wrote

I dunno - if you look at Fiverr its few thousand people competing for a buck. Its appalling.

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federalfinder t1_j1zqyiu wrote

MNCs aren't outsourcing content moderation to Fiverr.

I've seen companies like ByteDance, PWC, Deloitte, and Atos paying people about $1,000 - 1,300 a month throughout Southeast Asia when the average salary is only around $500-600 a month.

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unresolved_m t1_j1zt7z6 wrote

Interesting.

I think Fiverr was there before Uber and the rest, correct? If that's true, I think they might've influenced gig economy quite a bit, but I never heard anyone tying them with Uber, Lyft etc

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Chardlz t1_j1zm4ev wrote

Fiver is independent people, though. I suppose they could be in some sort of company that farms out work to fiver, but generally it's an individual placing a value on their own work and time. That's like the purest form of free and fair competition.

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unresolved_m t1_j1zn9vh wrote

> but generally it's an individual placing a value on their own work and time.

Hence the name Fiverr - five bucks or less. How they're still in business given the shady practices I have no clue.

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Light_Error t1_j1zaclv wrote

But is the claim of AI not that it can produce outcomes on its own through some sort of machine learning using different input? If it requires a team people anyway, then what is the point in calling it AI?

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quantumfucker t1_j1zfxkf wrote

AI does not operate independently of people. That has never been the goal. The goal is to use what we know about intelligence to make new tools that help us take society in a more productive and automated direction. In this case, humans still need to be the ones who train AI to begin with. A developed AI only needs an operator/maintainer.

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nosadtomato t1_j1znif5 wrote

"AI" is just a buzzword for machine learning algorithms that take large, large, large data sets and run over then multiple times to create an interactive algorithm based on what it was taught. The people in the article are the ones doing trivial tasks for the data sets, like labeling images so a neural network could learn what a bird is, or something along those lines.

Your comment seems to have not read the article?

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