EVs are great but they're expensive and really only available to the middle class and up

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That's solvable, and changing year over year.

Bolt is under $30k now. New Leaf ain’t bad. It’s getting there.

Yeah, the new Leaf is quite cool!

When the 1st-gen Leaf fell out of lease, en masse, they were selling for under $10k. I wonder if something like that could happen again.

This is a big damn deal.

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The refund is applied to the purchase price, and can exceed $10k, depending on the state. Leases are eligible, too.

What was your point?

Ehh, the original leaf was pretty crappy. There wasn't any active thermal support for the battery. Don't get first gen Nissan Leaf

There is a Kia Soul EV sold in Canada and UK, but not the US. The rest of Kia/Hyundai's EVs are in the $45k+ range which is just too much for me.

When the second hand EV market gets down to under 8k then I'll finally get one.

Agreed. Had a deposit on an Ioniq and decided not to.

I never pay more than 9k for a car so they gotta get cheaper for me to get one

Don't get first gen anything unless you need it to live

If you don't think some of the lower class isn't buying the exact cars as the middle class you're lying to yourself.

Go take a ride around the poorer neighborhoods... You'll see a lot of cars worth more than the houses they're parked in front of.

That the lower class will still be using old cheap second hand polluting vehicles because US policy on climate action is geared towards those who live in the suburbs

I don't think they will unless you buy a skoda citygo or vw up (these are sold in europe) or similar very small city car with less than 100 miles range.

The 40k+ by the time they get down to 8k most likely battery recycling will get better and selling battery separately and the car to scrap will be higher.

I just see a lot of 90s Holden and Ford sedans.

But that will be 10 or 15 years away though right? We need better climate policies that help the lower class as well as suburbanites