Submitted by diacewrb t3_10mh2ko in technology
Anaxamenes t1_j648f5d wrote
I think we need to shut down all technology H1-B visas then. They seem to have plenty of people that they can lay off so we don’t need to be bringing new people in.
magenk t1_j658hcd wrote
The rest of the economy can easily absorb these layoffs. I work in web development and online marketing and literally every company needs tech people nowadays.
GimmeFood_Please t1_j665bkx wrote
If you're good enough you'll get a job.
If not, good luck.
squirrelnuts46 t1_j68dcwr wrote
>If you're good enough
appear good enough
ftfy
GimmeFood_Please t1_j68g2tf wrote
Shit you're right
Anaxamenes t1_j668i6l wrote
Those visas are only for hard to fill positions, so it looks like they aren’t hard to fill anymore.
x-PussyDestroyer-x t1_j64qwrs wrote
How does H1b come into picture here? Not all H1bs are employed in tech. People are losing their jobs, and your first thought is to kick them out??
Anaxamenes t1_j64rhqc wrote
It specifically says we sight down technology H1-Bs. No new ones at least. People already here can have theirs renewed.
elven_mage t1_j67dmhh wrote
tHeY ToOk oUr jErBs!!!11
Anaxamenes t1_j6asbuu wrote
They artificially suppress wages.
elven_mage t1_j6b6ow4 wrote
You don't know what you're talking about. The median h1b wage is more than double that of the overall median. And that's not because employers love foreigners- it's because it's specifically for high demand categories that are hard to fill domestically. I have my (high paying) h1b job because I'm better at it than any American- not because I'm willing to work for peanuts.
Anaxamenes t1_j6bbo1n wrote
Actually I work with several h1-b visa holders. If there is less of a certain skill than what is needed then the cost of that skill goes up. If we bring people in from other countries, it prevents that increase and also drains resources from other countries that could benefit from that person’s skills.
Karmakazee t1_j6e9v6n wrote
You have your H1B job because your employer knows they have you over a barrel in a way they can’t reproduce with citizens. The notion you’re literally better at your job than every single American in your field is laughable hubris.
elven_mage t1_j6ebvme wrote
Lmao I've quit jobs without ever worrying about lining up the next one because demand is so high. Your perception that I'm some sort of sweatshop slave is pure copium- you'll swallow anything to let you continue believing that beig a 'native' immediately makes you better qualified than an immigrant.
Karmakazee t1_j6efin5 wrote
> you’ll swallow anything to let you continue believing that beig (sic.) a ‘native’ immediately makes you better qualified than an immigrant.
Says the person who literally claimed they’re better at their job than an entire population containing over 300 million people. Someone is bogarting the copium here, but I don’t think it’s me.
Best of luck in the ongoing layoffs, friend. Let’s hope you don’t find out the hard way that the people whose boots you’re licking so intently don’t think you’re nearly as special as you do.
elven_mage t1_j6eq5e9 wrote
My competence is not a matter of faith- my paycheck is real. I've never met a high performing engineer who was afraid of foreign competition- because they likewise know that their skills will protect them. Cope :)
Karmakazee t1_j6fnkmf wrote
If you’re truly more talented than every single “native” SDE currently working in the US as you claimed, I should hope your pay is astronomical. I suspect though it’s about average though for the industry. As are you. Cope with that :)
elven_mage t1_j6fw8i5 wrote
lmao nice try but i don't need to flaunt my salary to some nativist yokel
Karmakazee t1_j6g2j50 wrote
The only person asserting that there’s a distinction between the capabilities of tech employees who are here on a visa and people who were born here is you. Having a solid enough understanding of macroeconomics to realize the increased supply of tech talent created by the H1B visa program depresses industry wages hardly makes me a nativist yokel. I’ll keep my thoughts on what your worldview says about you to myself :)
OG_LiLi t1_j6aka3e wrote
We still won’t have enough people to fill tech roles. We’re not smart enough… don’t create enough. These people will find jobs no problem. Because these tech layoffs are all makeups for leadership failure and cheap money.
Anaxamenes t1_j6asgli wrote
I just don’t want it artificially suppressing wages. If there aren’t a lot of them, then they should be expensive.
OG_LiLi t1_j6d07ii wrote
Sadly this whole thing is to artificially suppress wages and force those that remain to do more with less. Has nothing to do with the companies hurting.
Anaxamenes t1_j6e643n wrote
Exactly, they find a way to bring more people in to keep the wages low. The real problem is it’s a brain drain in those countries. Many of them actually need highly educated and skilled people to stick around to build up their economies but the US takes many of them.
We complain a lot here about other countries having bad economies while we steal their highly educated and use them to keep our own wages lower.
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