ryanhoulihan t1_j6l2au8 wrote
Reply to comment by overthinkingthis in OpenAI executives say releasing ChatGPT for public use was a last resort after running into multiple hurdles — and they're shocked by its popularity by steviaplath153
I didn’t say there was a law. You’re cheating yourself. Because it’s a text generator, not a recruiter.
TheeBiscuitMan t1_j6l3uwl wrote
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Seriously I bet all those investment bankers feel really guilty for cheating themselves with all the algorithm trading happening.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6l53ta wrote
I don’t think this investment banking algorithms were a good idea either.
toaster-riot t1_j6lbq66 wrote
How do you feel about automobiles vs horses?
ryanhoulihan t1_j6lduio wrote
Do you think banking algorithms are a practical innovation for real people the way the combustion engine was? Then why is everyone so poor? I’m not technophobic.
toaster-riot t1_j6p3tc9 wrote
No I'm with ya there dude, screw our financial system. Everyone is poor because capitalism is a flawed system that's exploited by the ultra rich. Corporations post record profits while minimum wage stagnates and my prescription medication costs skyrocket.
Chatgpt helps me with things I am not good at and have no interest in learning. It doesn't mean I'm cheating if I use it to write a cover letter, in the same way that I'm not cheating if I print my letter with a printer instead of handwriting it.
Will the bourgeoise try to use it to further exploit the poor? Of course they will! They'll continue to divide labor and consolidate wealth the same way they have historically with all other technology. That doesn't make the technology bad.
The gap between the rich and the poor will continue to grow as technology opens the door to further consolidation of wealth. But, there's no way I'm writing cover letters if I don't have to. So at least I have that going for me.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6p66gf wrote
There were already templates available. This is a parlor trick and nobody has gained anything.
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Prick_in_a_Cactus t1_j6lqakz wrote
What? That's probably one of the stupidest things I have read today.
By that logic, recruiters are cheating too, they toss your resume into a machine that automatically vets you. They likely won't even see your resume at all.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6lqhll wrote
Yeah I think all of this is bad and a bad system and wasting our time and not serving us. Machines talking to machines about nothing relevant to us in languages we aren’t even going to be learning. People learning to make a good resume is a good thing because of what you learn while accomplishing it. How does any of this help the cause of society?
Prick_in_a_Cactus t1_j6ls9x5 wrote
It helps society by making larger systems move faster. It's not feasible to sift though a million applicants manually anymore. Many jobs and systems are too complex or interwoven for that sort of thing. As the human population increases, and people who qualify also increases, that is only going to get worse.
I do wish there was another way. But realistically there isn't.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6lsrcz wrote
Of course there is. Do you think we’re currently doing the best hiring process in history? Are you that naive? At that scale, what does it all matter? And why must we hire at that scale?
Prick_in_a_Cactus t1_j6lsv3v wrote
If you are so smart, go invent it then! If whatever method you cooked up actually works, then you'd get plenty of income.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6lsxw1 wrote
Oh yes, we definitely live a society where the best system wins and all the right people get rewarded. Enjoy yourself!
Prick_in_a_Cactus t1_j6ltqwe wrote
Well, you haven't even tried to show what you believe is the "best" system, so I have no reason to trust or believe you.
The definition of "best hiring process" is nebulous too and differs from person to person. I don't know what you think is best.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6lw3h0 wrote
I have done a bit of hiring in my time and I don’t think there’s a huge difference between randomly selecting a resume, making a judgment and having a short phone call, vs. any of this. It’s a fake piece of digital paper. They all say the same things. Half of it is fan fiction and the half that isn’t usually reads like it. Increasingly so, with “tools” like this.
So yeah, a better system is to just meet a few people and hire someone who can speak extemporaneously on related topics and who you enjoy interacting with. What about the hiring process could an applicant not fake? At that point, why even do all this?
It’s a waste of time and resources. We do not need a machine to write words for us. They’re inherently less valuable than the words we select ourselves.
You seem to be taking this personally.
Prick_in_a_Cactus t1_j6m7yzr wrote
Yep, everything you said is true. There's so much bullshit formality or social rules I'm too stupid (or the anxiety gets the better of me) to know. It's just better to use ChatGPT. I can't even write a single sentence sometimes. Not to forget a lot of bullshit requirements. It's always been a bullshit fake digital paper. We, the worker, finally have a tool that allows us to skip the time consuming bullshit end of the stick.
Also yes I am taking this personally... because I am in the middle of the job hunting process. So yea, I'd say figuring out how to get past the bullshit is something that hits quite close to home.
ryanhoulihan t1_j6m8bk7 wrote
Great, that’ll work for you this week. Then everyone’s will be exactly the same and you’ll be back where you started. You, the worker, did not win any ground today.
I’m unemployed as well. I’m sorry there’s no magic trick.
Prick_in_a_Cactus t1_j6m9ff6 wrote
Well yeah, I don't expect there to be a magic trick or anything. But ChatGPT helps smooth the rough and sharp edges of my stuff. Whether it be the resume, cover letter or even my profile on relevant recruitment websites.
Fuckin sucks. Good luck to you, hope you find a job that works for you.
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