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ltmkji t1_j8hdtsj wrote

he's been a scumbag all along. it's unfortunate to say, but 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to his reputation. too bad he couldn't just fuck off and retire after that.

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VeterinarianThese951 t1_j8hofk4 wrote

Right?! I used to say that all the time. Always a douche and it boggles my mind how people decided to not know until his recent buffoonery. 911 was his meal ticket. He literally didn’t have to do shit. Forest Gump coulda mayored himself out of that disaster because there was nowhere to go but up.

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parabostonian t1_j8hwgjn wrote

I remember Jon Stewart analyzing a Giuliani speech that was like 4 minutes long where he said 9/11 like 40 something times. And IIRC it was a college graduation several years later, lol.

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keksmuzh t1_j8iv6be wrote

It’s not an uncommon phenomenon in politics. One big event or personal story point somehow overshadows every horribly thing in their history.

John McCain coasted on nepotism and his POW status despite some nasty shit in his personal life and flight conduct that would’ve gotten any normal pilot grounded.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan let Bush Jr skate by numerous administrative problems at the time, and after the propaganda surrounding the wars fell apart he’d already won re-election.

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shecky_blue t1_j8jjqrd wrote

Hard to compare being the NYC mayor on 9/11 to having your airplane shot down and being locked up in a north Vietnamese POW camp for six years.

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keksmuzh t1_j8jl804 wrote

That’s the thing: McCain never should’ve been in a position to get shot down in Vietnam in the first place. He flew recklessly and crashed several planes domestically. He only kept his wings because his family had a lot of say in the military.

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shecky_blue t1_j8kgywq wrote

So, I’m hardly a McCain apologist (see: Palin, Sarah) but didn’t he refuse a prisoner transfer which would have gotten him out early because he was in fact an admiral’s son? I could be wrong there.

He wasn’t as much of a badass as Admiral Stockdale though, who cut himself with a razor and bashed himself in the face so he couldn’t be paraded around by the Viet Cong.

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AmishAvenger t1_j8mdbfq wrote

That is correct. They wanted to release him as propaganda. He refused to go unless everyone who’d been taken prisoner ahead of him was released first.

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VeterinarianThese951 t1_j8kiyzh wrote

Too badass for me. I am a big sissy when it comes to pain.

I would have been on the parade float like the grand marshal…

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MulciberTenebras t1_j8ht0in wrote

Biden summed it up best

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SeamanTheSailor t1_j8hvmk6 wrote

I like Biden, I had my doubts but he’s proven to be much better than I expected. That said it’s wild to see him so animated and quick, as great as Dark Brandon is, he’s fucking old. We need better guys.

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robodrew t1_j8iax67 wrote

Did you not see him at the State of the Union? He was animated and quick there too. He completely cornered the GOP when it came to Medicare/SocSec and forced them to do a "we don't actually want to cut entitlements" tour for the last week.

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invent_or_die t1_j8hyeel wrote

Old is not really a factor, you saw him in action. I've seen 40 year olds that were far less mentally competent.

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MrPotatoButt t1_j8js9oc wrote

Yeah, but those 40 year olds aren't even in a position of responsibility, let alone PotUS.

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invent_or_die t1_j8k9sfz wrote

Not sure about that; many engineers and scientists, project managers at 40 that are senior folks.

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MrPotatoButt t1_j8ooldl wrote

So you're calling those 40 year old engineers, scientists, & project managers in senior positions to be less mentally competent than Joe Biden?

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Conker1985 t1_j8jbf2m wrote

Liberals really need to dispense with the idea that young equals good or competent. Look at the biggest lunatics in the GOP right now. Gaetz, MTG, Boebert, DeSantis... all of them are young, and all of them are batshit insane. Experience goes a long way in politics, and Biden has more experience than just about anybody. The amount he's been able to get done despite walking into the biggest dumpster fire since the end of the Bush presidency is nothing less than astounding.

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Locke_Moghan t1_j8n004f wrote

Especially since all of the younger generations are waiting for the Boomers to die off, thinking that politics would magically change as soon as that happens.

No, there's plenty of younger replacements ready to spew out their batshit-crazy ideas.

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Conker1985 t1_j8n5puu wrote

Yep, all you have to do is look at the right-wing media landscape over the past 7 years to understand that it's not a generational problem.

It's no different than when progressives start going off about an imaginary AOC presidency every time she throws meat to her base on Twitter. Never mind the fact that her chances are slim to none on the national stage (and that isn't going to change anytime soon), but even if she magically beat the odds, it's not as though she'd have a blank check to write and pass legislation unilaterally, nor would it change how our government works. She likely have to content with a GOP majority in both the House and/or Senate. It would basically would amount to legislative gridlock domestically.

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OneGoodRib t1_j8ly732 wrote

Biden learned from the best and worst.

Anyway while I agree that politics shouldn't consist like 90% of people over the age of 65, I think age doesn't factor into things. There's plenty of shitty people who are young and plenty of old people who are still spry, witty, and competent.

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Xalbana t1_j8iaoq0 wrote

No. The problem is that he's ok. But we need someone younger and better.

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Anon_Alcoholic t1_j8itaqt wrote

While I wouldn't say he's terrible, blocking the railroad workers from striking is pretty fucking terrible

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MulciberTenebras t1_j8j577e wrote

Leaving out the part about how Republicans gutted their demands and would've refused to pass any of them in a bill. They'd have gladly let the economy be wrecked by a rail shutdown caused by endless strike just to blame it on Biden.

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FrumiousShuckyDuck t1_j8mkm0q wrote

Excited for your detailed and well-sourced reasoning behind why Biden is terrible. And who you considered a good president before him.

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badwhiskey63 t1_j8ilbk9 wrote

That’s the greatest take down in modern politics. Close second is “I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine, You’re no Jack Kennedy.”

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fahkoffkunt t1_j8i1ius wrote

I didn’t realize that quote came from him!

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ballrus_walsack t1_j8i7uq8 wrote

Probably from his speechwriters but Biden nailed it.

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GuiltyLawyer t1_j8j9th4 wrote

Biden was an adjunct Constitutional Law professor at my law school. People fought to get into his Saturday morning class. Guy was seen by all as being very knowledgable and quick-witted.

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fahkoffkunt t1_j8me04r wrote

That’s very probable, but he’s the one who delivered it. Kinda pedantic, no?

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GuiltyLawyer t1_j8j9d6z wrote

I remember when Joe Biden destroyed Guiliani's presidential aspirations by calling him, "probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency. Rudy Giuliani - there's only three things he [needs] to make a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11."

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BisexualPunchParty t1_j8jbd6i wrote

Reminder that Giuliani refused to provide the NYFD with modern walkie talkies, so that no one on the ground could radio up to tell them the towers were about to fall. Every firefighter who died in those towers has Giuliani to blame.

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OneGoodRib t1_j8ly8wt wrote

I still remember Giuliani calling Hilary Clinton a liar for claiming she was there walking around the debris-covered ground after 9/11 even though there's literally a photo of him with her in it doing just that.

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