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stanthemanchan t1_j8gwoqm wrote

His dark side is dripping down his face.

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Lord_Dimwit_Flathead t1_j8iduoa wrote

Chocolate rainnnnn

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KonaKathie t1_j8ilooa wrote

His little son on the lower right was fricking hilarious during this speech. Mocking Giuliani, making faces, and just being a total brat

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ltmkji t1_j8hdtsj wrote

he's been a scumbag all along. it's unfortunate to say, but 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to his reputation. too bad he couldn't just fuck off and retire after that.

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VeterinarianThese951 t1_j8hofk4 wrote

Right?! I used to say that all the time. Always a douche and it boggles my mind how people decided to not know until his recent buffoonery. 911 was his meal ticket. He literally didn’t have to do shit. Forest Gump coulda mayored himself out of that disaster because there was nowhere to go but up.

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parabostonian t1_j8hwgjn wrote

I remember Jon Stewart analyzing a Giuliani speech that was like 4 minutes long where he said 9/11 like 40 something times. And IIRC it was a college graduation several years later, lol.

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keksmuzh t1_j8iv6be wrote

It’s not an uncommon phenomenon in politics. One big event or personal story point somehow overshadows every horribly thing in their history.

John McCain coasted on nepotism and his POW status despite some nasty shit in his personal life and flight conduct that would’ve gotten any normal pilot grounded.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan let Bush Jr skate by numerous administrative problems at the time, and after the propaganda surrounding the wars fell apart he’d already won re-election.

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shecky_blue t1_j8jjqrd wrote

Hard to compare being the NYC mayor on 9/11 to having your airplane shot down and being locked up in a north Vietnamese POW camp for six years.

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keksmuzh t1_j8jl804 wrote

That’s the thing: McCain never should’ve been in a position to get shot down in Vietnam in the first place. He flew recklessly and crashed several planes domestically. He only kept his wings because his family had a lot of say in the military.

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shecky_blue t1_j8kgywq wrote

So, I’m hardly a McCain apologist (see: Palin, Sarah) but didn’t he refuse a prisoner transfer which would have gotten him out early because he was in fact an admiral’s son? I could be wrong there.

He wasn’t as much of a badass as Admiral Stockdale though, who cut himself with a razor and bashed himself in the face so he couldn’t be paraded around by the Viet Cong.

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AmishAvenger t1_j8mdbfq wrote

That is correct. They wanted to release him as propaganda. He refused to go unless everyone who’d been taken prisoner ahead of him was released first.

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VeterinarianThese951 t1_j8kiyzh wrote

Too badass for me. I am a big sissy when it comes to pain.

I would have been on the parade float like the grand marshal…

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MulciberTenebras t1_j8ht0in wrote

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SeamanTheSailor t1_j8hvmk6 wrote

I like Biden, I had my doubts but he’s proven to be much better than I expected. That said it’s wild to see him so animated and quick, as great as Dark Brandon is, he’s fucking old. We need better guys.

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robodrew t1_j8iax67 wrote

Did you not see him at the State of the Union? He was animated and quick there too. He completely cornered the GOP when it came to Medicare/SocSec and forced them to do a "we don't actually want to cut entitlements" tour for the last week.

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invent_or_die t1_j8hyeel wrote

Old is not really a factor, you saw him in action. I've seen 40 year olds that were far less mentally competent.

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MrPotatoButt t1_j8js9oc wrote

Yeah, but those 40 year olds aren't even in a position of responsibility, let alone PotUS.

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invent_or_die t1_j8k9sfz wrote

Not sure about that; many engineers and scientists, project managers at 40 that are senior folks.

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MrPotatoButt t1_j8ooldl wrote

So you're calling those 40 year old engineers, scientists, & project managers in senior positions to be less mentally competent than Joe Biden?

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Conker1985 t1_j8jbf2m wrote

Liberals really need to dispense with the idea that young equals good or competent. Look at the biggest lunatics in the GOP right now. Gaetz, MTG, Boebert, DeSantis... all of them are young, and all of them are batshit insane. Experience goes a long way in politics, and Biden has more experience than just about anybody. The amount he's been able to get done despite walking into the biggest dumpster fire since the end of the Bush presidency is nothing less than astounding.

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Locke_Moghan t1_j8n004f wrote

Especially since all of the younger generations are waiting for the Boomers to die off, thinking that politics would magically change as soon as that happens.

No, there's plenty of younger replacements ready to spew out their batshit-crazy ideas.

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Conker1985 t1_j8n5puu wrote

Yep, all you have to do is look at the right-wing media landscape over the past 7 years to understand that it's not a generational problem.

It's no different than when progressives start going off about an imaginary AOC presidency every time she throws meat to her base on Twitter. Never mind the fact that her chances are slim to none on the national stage (and that isn't going to change anytime soon), but even if she magically beat the odds, it's not as though she'd have a blank check to write and pass legislation unilaterally, nor would it change how our government works. She likely have to content with a GOP majority in both the House and/or Senate. It would basically would amount to legislative gridlock domestically.

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OneGoodRib t1_j8ly732 wrote

Biden learned from the best and worst.

Anyway while I agree that politics shouldn't consist like 90% of people over the age of 65, I think age doesn't factor into things. There's plenty of shitty people who are young and plenty of old people who are still spry, witty, and competent.

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Xalbana t1_j8iaoq0 wrote

No. The problem is that he's ok. But we need someone younger and better.

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Anon_Alcoholic t1_j8itaqt wrote

While I wouldn't say he's terrible, blocking the railroad workers from striking is pretty fucking terrible

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MulciberTenebras t1_j8j577e wrote

Leaving out the part about how Republicans gutted their demands and would've refused to pass any of them in a bill. They'd have gladly let the economy be wrecked by a rail shutdown caused by endless strike just to blame it on Biden.

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FrumiousShuckyDuck t1_j8mkm0q wrote

Excited for your detailed and well-sourced reasoning behind why Biden is terrible. And who you considered a good president before him.

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badwhiskey63 t1_j8ilbk9 wrote

That’s the greatest take down in modern politics. Close second is “I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine, You’re no Jack Kennedy.”

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fahkoffkunt t1_j8i1ius wrote

I didn’t realize that quote came from him!

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ballrus_walsack t1_j8i7uq8 wrote

Probably from his speechwriters but Biden nailed it.

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GuiltyLawyer t1_j8j9th4 wrote

Biden was an adjunct Constitutional Law professor at my law school. People fought to get into his Saturday morning class. Guy was seen by all as being very knowledgable and quick-witted.

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fahkoffkunt t1_j8me04r wrote

That’s very probable, but he’s the one who delivered it. Kinda pedantic, no?

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GuiltyLawyer t1_j8j9d6z wrote

I remember when Joe Biden destroyed Guiliani's presidential aspirations by calling him, "probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency. Rudy Giuliani - there's only three things he [needs] to make a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11."

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BisexualPunchParty t1_j8jbd6i wrote

Reminder that Giuliani refused to provide the NYFD with modern walkie talkies, so that no one on the ground could radio up to tell them the towers were about to fall. Every firefighter who died in those towers has Giuliani to blame.

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OneGoodRib t1_j8ly8wt wrote

I still remember Giuliani calling Hilary Clinton a liar for claiming she was there walking around the debris-covered ground after 9/11 even though there's literally a photo of him with her in it doing just that.

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-boozypanda t1_j8gz3gn wrote

Are they gonna show how he married his cousin?

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ithinkther41am t1_j8h3ntg wrote

NOW THAT’S A MAN WHO KNOWS HOW TO MARRY HIS COUSIN!

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S3simulation t1_j8hy4k6 wrote

Now THAT’s a container for holding liquid!

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Mr5h4d0w t1_j8i64t4 wrote

Now THERE’S a man who knows his meatballs.

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JQuilty t1_j8hnrxa wrote

What are you talking about, Shelbyville?

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DogmaticLaw t1_j8h20ku wrote

Maybe they will talk about how he announced his separation from his second wife to the media before announcing it to her?

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real_nice_guy t1_j8h6zt8 wrote

I thought this was just a joke comment but boy was I wrong

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BabyNapsDaddyGames t1_j8iak0c wrote

Yup, totally true! He is a cousin fucker for sure.

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GreatJobKeepitUp t1_j8ibzlq wrote

No worries, it's his second cousin 🤣

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GuiltyLawyer t1_j8ja0cm wrote

And instead of divorcing her he got a court to annul it ON THE GROUNDS THAT THEY WERE RELATED so that he wouldn't have to pay out. A true scumbag indeed.

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OneGoodRib t1_j8lyf1z wrote

Well to be totally fair, there's probably not a single person in the entire world who isn't descended from a cousin/cousin marriage, particularly one that happened within the last 220 years. The real scandal is that anyone willingly married him in the first place.

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-Clayburn t1_j8irg6f wrote

Remember that time he dressed in drag and Donald Trump motorboated him?

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cleveland_leftovers t1_j8ix6le wrote

I still need to show this to my Conservative parents.

They’ll explain it away like the ‘grab’em by the pussy’ thing, but I guarantee they’ve never seen it.

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PromiscuousMNcpl t1_j8jbtt2 wrote

My grandparents deflect with “he was a registered democrat then, of course he was depraved!”

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InfernalRodent t1_j8i81d4 wrote

It was rather convenient how he got all the dirt on the Italian mob from "anonymous" sources and when they fell the Russian mob swooped right in to fill the void......

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NipplesOnMyPancakes t1_j8l67l2 wrote

Yep. Rudy's links to the Russian mafia and the Russian state go back decades.

Trump Lawyer Rudy Giuliani's Mysterious Ties to Russia and Former Soviet Union Go Back Decades, Experts Argue

The ironic thing is that probably the biggest threat of Russian meddling in America was totally ignored during the 90s. Not communism but crime/corruption. But I guess corruption and capitalism are comfortable bedfellows so it wasn't a big deal.

But if you look at Russia today, it's a pure gangster state. And they export their corruption and crime around the world.

Gangster’s paradise: how organised crime took over Russia

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elinordash t1_j8nt6rg wrote

While I understand the desire to draw a big conspiracy theory around Guiliani, but I think he actually started out as someone with a massive ego and the intention to do good. Going after the Cosa Nostra in the 80s took serious guts. He also went after Wall Street in a very public way that sent some people to jail. His term as Mayor of NYC was controversial and there is a lot to criticize, but he was still taking big swings trying to make change.

If he had stayed a prosecutor, he'd probably be a much more admirable person. But fame seems to have been his driving ambition since 9/11.

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oldspice75 t1_j8gp6cl wrote

He never had any other side

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Salty_Pancakes t1_j8gvb4t wrote

Even when he was fighting the Italian mafia he was in bed with the Russian mob.

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docter_actual t1_j8ie2b1 wrote

Dude looks like a mobster boss himself. No way anyone believes he actually does anything to combat organized crime without being in bed with another organized crime group

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planetjeff86 t1_j8gvm0s wrote

Or you can just watch John Oliver

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mickeyflinn t1_j8ib64f wrote

Holy hell that was hilarious and insane.

> .. it would be awkward for Trump because she is in his family and awkward for Giuliani as she isn't in his.

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LiterallyOuttoLunch t1_j8he7pf wrote

I’m just glad Andrew Giuliani is a stooge, and there’s no worry of a Giuliani Dynasty in the future.

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37Schmeckles t1_j8hmgcy wrote

What makes you think being an obsequious little stooge doesnt stand him in perfect stead to continue his fathers work?

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rabobar t1_j8hs1ty wrote

He lacks his father's charm and good looks

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DogVacuum t1_j8ht6yt wrote

But he does have his gigantic teeth. That man knows how to start an apple.

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OneGoodRib t1_j8lyhrv wrote

Most awful rich people also lack charm and good looks, though.

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Rudeboy67 t1_j8io2nb wrote

The best was his Duke Golf team saga. When frat boy Dukie golf bros think you’re too entitled and an asshole it’s time to start reconsidering your life choices.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/kindred-2008-12

And then he sued them saying they had to put him on the Varsity team. And they had to let him play the Duke golf course for free for the rest of his life. He lost, of course.

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LiterallyOuttoLunch t1_j8ip2l1 wrote

His sole job while working in the Trump administration? Be on call to play golf with President Trump.

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Bongerson t1_j8iuqgr wrote

Remember when he was 100% about to bang a teenager implied to be human trafficked on camera until Sacha Baron Cohen cut the bit short?

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Boondogle17 t1_j8hp4rh wrote

Haha I remember when I told some of my republican family about Giuliani marrying his cousin and none of them knew lol. Most uninformed people. It also did not surprise me that it didn't bother them that much lol.

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TheGardenBlinked t1_j8hyp08 wrote

“There’s the TRUTH,”

shakes head with a frown

“…and the TRUTH!”

nods head with a big smile

  • Lionel Hutz
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Darklighter10 t1_j8hrhv5 wrote

Would be more interesting if they revealed he had a bright side.

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Chan_Dabeep t1_j8iccso wrote

Good, I hope he gets his ass dragged for the rest of his days. The election nonsense was as ridiculous of a clown show as I’ve ever seen. Just public masturbation in front of a court room.

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hagbardceline69420 t1_j8jnhoi wrote

>Rudy Guiliani, a guy whose sentences consist of a noun, a verb, and 9/11

  • Dark Brandon

i've seen the Borat movie, dude should be in jail just for that.

chasing young girls around hotel rooms smfh

what a legacy

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llessursivad t1_j8l21jz wrote

He should be arrested for tucking in his shirt after she untucked it while removing the microphone?

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vroart t1_j8hlf88 wrote

As someone who lived in the tri state area.... that dark side was always there. Look up “Giuliani time.”

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garry4321 t1_j8iw1h6 wrote

I always wonder what the young version of themselves would think if you showed them what they eventually become. Like would 20 year old RG see the nose wiping hair ink dripping conspiracist version of himself and be like "Cant wait to grow into that!"

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JubalHarshaw23 t1_j8jc6ta wrote

He got his name as an Anti-Mob prosecutor by becoming the Fixer for one New York Crime family in exchange for dirt on the other families.

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blumpkinmania t1_j8hvguu wrote

Is that his cousin wife or the wife he left to bang the cousin?

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magick_68 t1_j8hh1fh wrote

Next on, the surprisingly dark side of the beloved guy called Adolf Hitler.

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DogVacuum t1_j8htg02 wrote

You know, with Rudy, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him

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HugeEmu69 t1_j8htnmp wrote

He didn’t know fat free yogurt had fat in it

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elemenno50 t1_j8hx5g9 wrote

Anytime I see a pic of his kid I’m always reminded of Chris Farley.

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Chan_Dabeep t1_j8idfy9 wrote

Giuliani and Trump both didn’t see Biden coming. Biden got Rudy laughed off the stage back in the day. When Biden told Trump to shut up I think a lot of folks wanted to hear that. In both cases they underestimated Biden. Too high on their own supply.

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tidho t1_j8iz9yz wrote

lmao. Biden happened as a result of the media finally dismantling Trump. Painting him as some kind of offensive weapon is simple hilarity. He won the nomination because he was the only perceived moderate among the 17 Dems running. If anyone knew how he'd actually govern, one of the others would have taken out Trump.

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AlexMelillo t1_j8ib19f wrote

My dad travelled to NYC for work often. 3-4 times a year for over 20 years. He talks about Giuliani reviving New York and how he saw it getting noticeably better when he was the mayor.

Kinda sad the dude was a crook all along. Or so it seems

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tidho t1_j8izg97 wrote

This is true, but it's not aligned with the acceptable reddit narrative as it actually gives him credit for legitimate accomplishments.

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Stillatin t1_j8oncsw wrote

Because he didn't do shit, crime was falling every year since dinkins, of course he's going to take credit, but his civic cleanup campaign was garbage. The only thing he did right was make Bratton the police commissioner. That's who really cleaned the city up. Everybody else was already doing their part in cleaning the city before Giuliani came in. Look up Nathan glazer, Dan biederman, Herbert sturz if you don't believe me.

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tidho t1_j8oq347 wrote

so was it Dinkins or was it Bratton?

If Bratton was a good hire, the credit for that goes to Giuliani, that's how executive positions work.

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Stillatin t1_j8ouccx wrote

It's everybody but Giuliani, if you want to be simple minded

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tidho t1_j8outf9 wrote

got it.

guy he hired 'really cleaned the city up' but don't credit Giuliani because we don't like him for being too Trump.

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Stillatin t1_j8ov38q wrote

The fuck are you talking about, i actually live in the damn city. Where the hell do you live, foh

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tidho t1_j8ovi5l wrote

I don't live in the city, I'm basing my comments off the word of someone that lives in the city.

> The only thing he did right was make Bratton the police commissioner. That's who really cleaned the city up.

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Stillatin t1_j8p5vpb wrote

I'm talking about your original comment you jackass, literally the reason why I even replied to your slow ass

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tidho t1_j8pr1gd wrote

yes, i suggested he should get credit for the clean up

then you corrected me by saying he shouldn't, because the guy he hired was actually responsible for the clean up

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seansy5000 t1_j8ipcom wrote

Reveals? This dude has been out and open about his corruption with zero consequences for decades.

I’d like a docuseries that “reveals” why these people never get in trouble or pay consequences for their traitorous acts towards our country.

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kidneycat t1_j8hvn9l wrote

I want to watch this. How, where is it streaming?

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zxvasd t1_j8i4v5f wrote

There’s no dark side. He’s all dark.

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rippa76 t1_j8i78xt wrote

He was the hero of 9/11, because he was mayor when it happened. — George St Geegland and Gil Faizon

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Loud-Ad-2280 t1_j8i7ftm wrote

Is his dark side when he married his cousin? Or when he attempted to overthrow democracy?

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mortalcoil1 t1_j8i9u98 wrote

If you have ever personally known an alcoholic, they all have a terrible dark side.

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frankenpoopies t1_j8ie4q9 wrote

Like when he bulldozed the squatters?

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Fx08 t1_j8ifkhi wrote

This implies he has a bright side.

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zorbathegrate t1_j8isafz wrote

Onetime his dark side literally dropped down his face at a press conference.

Also, Giuliani was saved by 9/11

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BenTramer t1_j8jglic wrote

Criminal swindler piece of shit.

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Stillatin t1_j8ol60p wrote

Hopefully the rest of the country sees what new yorkers have known for decades.

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Birdflv t1_j8ho089 wrote

Is he wearing mascara?

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Jaysyn4Reddit t1_j8hwdps wrote

They are calling him "mayor", because they can't call him a lawyer anymore.

EDIT: ooh, must be a buncha salty fascist symps up in here!

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charliem122 t1_j8ioxpg wrote

Mfkr look like a villain from Gotham

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LayneCobain95 t1_j8iue6x wrote

This guy went from “America’s favorite mayor” or governor or whatever the hell he was. To THIS. Guy ruined his legacy with Trump

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Archamasse t1_j8kputb wrote

Right? All he had to do was head off into the sunset and he'd be probably be printed on money in a few centuries time. Now he's a joke.

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Clouds2589 t1_j8j48w7 wrote

God, so he's ALWAYS looked like a smacked ass? I thought that was just due to old age. Looks like someone went to town on his face with a club

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werofpm t1_j8j9e2h wrote

He oozes darkness…. If you needed a documentary to “reveal” said dark side, there’s no help for that burnt, somehow soggy, pop tart you carry inside your otherwise empty dome.

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carcinoma_kid t1_j8jghzy wrote

Wow, Rudy Giuliani has a dark side? Huh.

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SeveralAct5829 t1_j8k6bck wrote

Crazy ass Rudy !! What happened to him ??

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jblanch3 t1_j8kpqv7 wrote

CNN just did another docuseries about Rudy but I haven't watched it yet.

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Amally20 t1_j8m4ecc wrote

What a fucking loser, just trash.

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ECKohns t1_j8pex6e wrote

9/11 was the greatest thing to happen to Rudy Guiliani. If 9/11 hadn’t happened. He would have been remembered as a mediocre mayor at best. Instead he was mayor of NYC when the most devastating attack happened. And in that one moment he demonstrated strength. But that is his only claim to fame. As Joe Biden once said, “Rudy Guiliani, he only mentions 3 things in a sentence, a noun and a verb and 9/11.”

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Lookalikemike t1_j8tp6ma wrote

If you were a New Yorker during the Giuliani era, you could see the cracks in the image daily.

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W_MarkFelt t1_j8jz2zs wrote

Don’t need to watch this shyte or anything else like it! Now people are making money from stories about them lying instead of just jailing them and being us being able to move on with our lives! Fuck Rudy, Trump, and the rest of them! AND those that continue to make money from keeping them relevant.

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Savings-Fix938 t1_j8i9m3a wrote

It really does suck that anyone who lived in NYC before and after him knows just how good a mayor he was for the city. I’m not gonna shill for a politician that I don’t know but this whole series screams “cope” to me.

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InterestingPound8217 t1_j8m4pwb wrote

Lmao he let the russian mob run wild, and empowered the police state. It was a very bad time for nyc.

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rabobar t1_j8hrul0 wrote

He helped install the Russian Mafia in NYC, was a shit mayor, botched 9-11 help, and has generally been a scumbag

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adrift98 t1_j8i89uz wrote

Nice revisionist history you got going there bro.

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rabobar t1_j8ifvp1 wrote

He literally had the disaster command center built in the same building complex that was bombed in the 90s

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Artistic-Time-3034 t1_j8hmy6z wrote

He really made New York a safer place crime wise, look at the crime before,during and after.

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rabobar t1_j8hrz0p wrote

Dinkins should get the credit, as well as the national decline of crack consumption, and the general dotcom wave of prosperity

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RohypnolPickupArtist t1_j8i420j wrote

You're getting down voted because he supported Trump so he's relegated to only character assassination by the media. As a native New Yorker, he made this city amazing to live in, it's quickly going back to shithole days of the 70's /80's

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MajCassiusStarbuckle t1_j8i9orh wrote

Telling the truth about an incompetent treason weasel isn't character assassination.

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RohypnolPickupArtist t1_j8j5lh4 wrote

You're not though, the current "truth" is just HIGHLY partisan opinion.

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Artistic-Time-3034 t1_j8m55rl wrote

Can’t wait for the piece in Cuomo comes out, dude wrecked the New York economy destroyed historic businesses and killed all the damn seniors! While molesting his female workers and gaslighting the country.

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RohypnolPickupArtist t1_j8mr442 wrote

He's a Democrat, they'll never bother to tell the truth about him. During peak Covid they marketed him as a sex symbol, dudes been giving off strong sex predator vibes for decades.

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