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Skavau t1_je9bvau wrote

Reply to comment by SaluteYourChase in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199

The Parents Television Council is a socially reactionary conservative group.

They are coming from an entirely different frame of reference to contemporary progressives who might object to Friends. Liberals and progressives in the 90s did not find it offensive.

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SaluteYourChase t1_je9s6ap wrote

I'm sure some did hate the constant trans jokes at times, they just didn't have social media be as big of a platform to share.

But thats not the point. The person said nobody found it offensive back then. I provided people who found it offensive. They were wrong. We weren't talking what groups found it offensive

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Skavau t1_jea62lv wrote

Well sure, a small amount of people did but not like now

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SaluteYourChase t1_jea7201 wrote

Its still a small amount of people. We just hear it more because with social media you can hear the opinions of a random person you've never met and isn't famous in any way. A lot of these "people find it offensive now" is like 5 people on Twitter finding it offensive and 10,000 others dunking on them for it. Back in the day, 5 random people find it offensive, and the extent that their opinion travels is a hearty debate with friends at a dinner party. Now it travels the world

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Skavau t1_jea7o5p wrote

I don't think he meant to imply that literally no-one took offence, but Friends is a product of its time and its expressed attitudes were going to be mainstream then.

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SaluteYourChase t1_jea8llo wrote

I'm saying about the same number of people are taking offense today vs then, the only difference is social media. Some may discuss how opinions have changed and why things said then may not be popular opinions now, but thats not taking offense, that's just discussing friends from a modern lens.

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Skavau t1_jea94in wrote

No reason to believe your claims

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SaluteYourChase t1_jeabluj wrote

All I can say is look up some of your favorite "dumb" controversies over the past decade or so. Tan suit Obama? Said by Sean Hannity once. Starbucks coffee cups not having snowflakes? Said by literally 1 random person. Seeing Red shouldve focused on 9/11? 1 person on YouTube that didn't even really have many subscribers. We had an entire week it felt like during the pandemic discussing if Topanga's husband found shrimp tails in his cereal. That's the world we live in with social media, little things blow up.

And if you are going to ignore that social media blows up unpopular opinions, you can't honestly accept that there were less offended people back in the day. That claim should be equally dismissed

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Skavau t1_jeabw0v wrote

Do you think social attitudes have remained stagnant in the last 20 years?

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SaluteYourChase t1_jeacr2r wrote

Of course I don't. But "I'm offended friends is a product of its time" is not a commonly held opinion. You can acknowledge that social attitudes have changed without being upset that the show was made. Hell you can even enjoy the show but ultimately recognize that this isn't the current opinion.

I love boy meets world. There's a lot of fun stuff that holds up just as good as when it was made. Theres a lot of stuff that is a product of its time. I listen to the rewatch pod the cast does. They do a great job of breaking down the show, and they're not really ever offended by it. There's a very powerful scene in season 1 where a racial slur is used. Probably wouldn't be accepted today. They questioned why looking back that one was used when another one was cut earlier in the episode. But they weren't offended and they acknowledge it was a powerful scene. Just that it wouldn't be made today

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